[alsa-devel] Headphone jack and auto-mute of speak output

[Raymond Yau]

2010/10/7 Davyd McColl <davydm at gmail.com>

> Good day
>
> I'm new to this list (though I've done some searching, I'm sure I could
> have
> missed something), so please bear with me.
>
> I filed a bug report recently against Ubuntu with respect to the problem
> I'm
> experiencing (as per the subject: jacking in my headphones doesn't mute the
> speaker output) and was informed that the decision had been made upstream
> as
> a design intention. I was linked off to:
>
> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2010-August/030071.html
> with respect to the thread on this topic. I'd like to raise it again
> though,
> perhaps as a configurable feature, for the following reasons:
>

Enable auto-muting in model=auto only for devices with HP and speakers.

http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=2a2ed0dfc9ec44a899c7d4672f73f2c045099118;hp=299f293b3428ae6d73406642cd7d41f08d524c83


if the bios set your laptop 's speaker as line out , you need to implement a
new model for your laptop ,

model=auto assume the bios had already correctly setup all the pin complex
of your computer



>
> 1) headphones muting the speakers used to work some time ago (before Ubuntu
> 9.04, iirc), so we have an established user expectation even under Linux
> distros.
> 2) headphones mute the built-in speakers of my laptop (windows and ubuntu)
> -- why the inconsistent behaviour for a desktop? Just because the speakers
> in the laptop are bolted into the frame of the machine?
> 3) Windows "gets it right": plugging in headphones mutes external speakers
> -- it's convenient (Though I think you can disable that feature if you
> want). I'm told by a person at work that his Mac does the same. Again, the
> user expectation is unmet under a newish Linux distro.
> 4) The user expectation theory is held up by the number of bug reports
> against this design choice on Ubuntu Launchpad alone (I haven't looked at
> other bug lists). The average user is not expecting the current behaviour,
> obviously
> 5) For people without hardware volume controls on their speakers, the
> problem is exacerbated: instead of being able to plug in headphones to
> disturb others around them less (ie: contain their music/noises), they have
> to unplug their speakers too -- which may not be trivial since speakers are
> normally plugged in at the back of the machine, not at the front where the
> headphone jack would be found. On a machine in an enclosure, this is
> especially troublesome.
>
> So I'd really like to know if it would be possible to allow the behaviour
> most users are expecting. Sometimes it's useful to be able to output to
> both
> speakers and headphones, but I would say that the average user doesn't want
> both at the same time.
>
> -d
>
>
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