[alsa-devel] bug

[Nikita N.]

Dear Maarten de Boer,
as you read from many voices here, your software is verified can damage
the speakers, if not used somehow correctly.
The definition of correctly is still to us unknown, nor you are giving
us any hope in that.
We were hoping in some form of amend from yourself, about the dangerous
software you produced and distributed to public.
We were hoping in some form of bug fix or any professional approach to
solving that issue.
We were hoping at least in a simple warning popping up from your tool,
when user sets any "hazardous" levels.
We were hoping at least-least in a warning popping up from your tool at
runtime, something like "Warning: improper settings for this level, this
level and this might result in damages to your audio devices".
But, we only see a nice turnaround "There is not much that I can add".
Your program does not respect the minimum requirement for a software to
be published, such as being "reasonably" bug free.
As for "bug" is intended a software which is limited in creating
software problems.
While instead, your tool expands to a whole new, and more dangerous
level - hardware damage.
Hence your software, as is, doesn't respect our Debian/Ubuntu
philosophy.
So, at this point "There is not much that" we can add.
We also wish you "Good luck with that."

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015, at 03:26 AM, Maarten de Boer wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am the author of alsamixergui. I am not actively maintaining
> alsamixergui anymore (and haven’t been for years). It is pretty much
> coincidence that I saw this mail thread; a slightly more informative
> subject would have helped.
> 
> There is not much that I can add to this thread (thanks everyone for your
> replies), but in short:
> 
> - alsamixergui is just a graphical frontend, and exposes the mixer
> capabilities of the sound card in the same way alsamixer, amixer or any
> other alsa mixer does, so this is not alsamixergui specific. (strongly
> based on the alsamixer code (verbatim) with fltk gui code added to it.).
> 
> - this is not a software problem, this is a hardware problem. The user
> adjusts the mixer to cause a feedback between speaker and internal
> microphone, and leaves this running for >30 seconds, and his hardware
> can’t deal with it. It is probably not even operating system specific.
> 
> Finally, I really don’t like the tone you use, Nikita, particularly your
> talk of “exposing the individuals guilty” and your accusations of
> secrecy. And "expose clearly to the public that tool as a virus/malware,
> and inform the antivirus authorities about it.”, really? Good luck with
> that.
> 
> If you want to blacklist alsamixergui from your distro, please go ahead,
> but don’t forget to blacklist alsamixer and amixer too, as well as any
> other alsa mixer front ends.
> 
> Maarten
> 
> 
> On 31 Mar 2015, at 11:14, Ricard Wanderlof <ricard.wanderlof at axis.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Tue, 31 Mar 2015, Nikita N. wrote:
> > 
> >>> alsamixergui is not created by the ALSA 
> >>> project, so this mailing list is the wrong place to look if none other 
> >>> than for that particular reason.
> >> Sure, we would be very grateful if you could point that out, so we can
> >> contact the individual who programmed this tool
> >> Unless it's not a secret or there is smtng to hide.
> > 
> > I have no idea who wrote it, Clemens posted a link but at to me it seems 
> > dead, there should be something in the source code (perhaps that's where 
> > he got it frome?). Could very well be that it was written by someone who 
> > has since moved on to other things so that any links or email adresses are 
> > outdated. It's not necessarily a secret, it could just be unknown at this 
> > point, and if the person who wrote it is not actively maintaining it any 
> > more there's probably little to be gained from contacting him.
> > 
> > /Ricard
> > -- 
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