[alsa-devel] HD-audio runtime PM

Lin, Mengdong mengdong.lin at intel.com
Fri Jan 24 15:45:32 CET 2014


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Takashi Iwai [mailto:tiwai at suse.de]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:37 PM
> To: Lin, Mengdong
> Cc: Alsa-devel at alsa-project.org; Wang Xingchao; David Henningsson
> Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] HD-audio runtime PM
> 
> At Wed, 11 Dec 2013 05:37:44 +0000,
> Lin, Mengdong wrote:
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Takashi Iwai [mailto:tiwai at suse.de]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:26 PM
> >
> > > > > > HW team clarified that HDMI/DP jack insertion cannot wake up
> > > > > > the
> > > > > controller from D3. So this is a HW restriction for Haswell, not
> > > > > a driver regression.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now the problem on Haswell/Broadwell is:
> > > > > > After the controller enters D3, Gfx driver can still detect
> > > > > > HDMI/DP hot
> > > > > plug event even if the display power well is disabled.
> > > > > > Although Gfx driver set Presence Detect and ELD Valid , the
> > > > > > audio
> > > > > controller does not wake up and so audio driver has no idea
> > > > > about the HDMI/DP hot-plug.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is it audio driver itself or the user space that need this ELD info?
> > > > > > Maybe Gfx driver can directly report ELD info to user space.
> > > > >
> > > > > If so, the graphics driver can wake up the audio driver as well
> > > > > -- this is yet one more reason to create a direct communication
> > > > > channel between the graphics and audio drivers :)
> > > >
> > > > Need the audio driver provide an API for gfx driver?
> > > > Maybe this API can call snd_hda_power_up(codec) and then
> > > > snd_hda_power_down(codec), thus the controller and codec will
> wake
> > > up and audio driver can check ELD info.
> > >
> > > Well, we can create a common object containing the ops registered by
> > > both graphics and audio drivers, then communicate through it,
> > > something like vga_switcheroo.
> >
> > Hi Takashi,
> >
> > I'm sure how to use a common object like vga_switcheroo. Would you
> please share more info?
> >
> > I feel a wake up process may be like this:
> > - Gfx driver detects the hot-plug at first and notify audio driver by the
> communication channel.
> > - In the notification callback, the audio driver wakes up the audio
> controller to D0, but codec can still stay in D3.
> >  (Hope we can add a time out for controller here to avoid controller
> > back to D3 at once and lose the capability to check unsol event)
> > - Then when Gfx driver enables or disables audio, and the audio
> controller can receive the unsol event in D0.
> > - Audio driver check ELD in unsol event handler, this will make codec
> resume to D0.
> 
> If we have a direct communication with the graphics driver, the audio
> driver doesn't wait for the unsol event at all.  It can retrieve ELD and
> even better port info more directly; i.e. we can skip even the wake up of
> the HDMI controller and codec chips.  The notification and ELD updates
> can be done without the audio hardware, after all (actual ELD updates will
> be done at resume).
> 

For audio, using the SW communication interface to retrieve ELD information directly from gfx driver will be more reliable than using the verb.

Today we observed ELD corruption on Haswell after the audio controller resumes from D3 to D0. I removed and reconnect HDMI monitor when the controller is in D3.
The gfx i195 driver will shut off the power well when HDMI monitor is removed and turn on power again when it detects HDMI is reconnected. 
But when I play something and thus resume the audio, ELD info shows monitor is present but ELD becomes invalid:
The ELD info got by audio driver is corrupted and audio driver complains 'invalid ELD version 0'. It seems to be the ELD corruption issue you mention before.

We found the gfx driver still gets the proper ELD and uses it to update HW buffer for audio side. However, reading back shows the HW buffer is corrupted and update fails.
So when theaudio driver uses verb to get ELD data, it also get the corrupted data.

If we force i915 to keeps its power well on (set i1915_disable_power_well = 0), there will be no ELD corruption. But we need to shut off power well if applicable for power saving.

So this adds one more reason to use a SW communication interface to retrieve the ELD info and other necessary info like port number.

Thanks
Mengdong


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