[alsa-devel] [Alsa-user] hdmi sound rerouted?

[Dagg Stompler]

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Deucher, Alexander
> Sent: 10/19/13 03:59 PM
> To: Dagg Stompler, Takashi Iwai
> Subject: RE: [alsa-devel] [Alsa-user]  hdmi sound rerouted?
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > From: Dagg Stompler [mailto:daggs at gmx.com]
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> > Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:49 AM
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> > To: Takashi Iwai; Deucher, Alexander
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> > Cc: Clemens Ladisch; alsa-user at lists.sourceforge.net; alsa-devel at alsa-
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> > project.org
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> > Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [Alsa-user] hdmi sound rerouted?
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> > > ----- Original Message -----
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> > > From: Takashi Iwai
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> > > Sent: 10/08/13 10:49 AM
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> > > To: Deucher, Alexander
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> > > Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [Alsa-user]  hdmi sound rerouted?
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> > >
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> > > At Mon, 7 Oct 2013 13:36:24 +0000,
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> > > Deucher, Alexander wrote:
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> > > >
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> > > > > -----Original Message-----
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> > > > > From: Takashi Iwai [mailto:tiwai at suse.de]
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> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 5:18 AM
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> > > > > To: Deucher, Alexander
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> > > > > Cc: Clemens Ladisch; Dagg Stompler; alsa-user at lists.sourceforge.net;
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> > alsa-
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> > > > > devel at alsa-project.org
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> > > > > Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [Alsa-user] hdmi sound rerouted?
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> > > > >
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> > > > > At Mon, 30 Sep 2013 02:23:22 +0000,
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> > > > > Deucher, Alexander wrote:
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> > > > > >
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> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
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> > > > > > > From: Clemens Ladisch [mailto:cladisch at googlemail.com]
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> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:33 PM
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> > > > > > > To: Dagg Stompler
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> > > > > > > Cc: alsa-user at lists.sourceforge.net; Deucher, Alexander; alsa-
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> > > > > devel at alsa-
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> > > > > > > project.org
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> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] [alsa-devel] hdmi sound rerouted?
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> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > Dagg Stompler wrote:
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> > > > > > > >> daggs at gmx.com wrote:
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> > > > > > > >>> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
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> > > > > > > >>> card 1: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
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> > > > > > > >>> card 2: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
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> > > > > > > >>
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> > > > > > > >> The second one is called "Generic" because your kernel does not
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> > (yet)
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> > > > > > > >> know the hardware.
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> > > > > > > >>
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> > > > > > > >>> 01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
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> > Cedar
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> > > > > > > HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300 Series]
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> > > > > > > >>> 06:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
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> > RV635
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> > > > > > > HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 3600 Series]
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> > > > > > > >>
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> > > > > > > >> These are the HDMI outputs of *two* graphics cards. The first
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> > one's
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> > > > > > > >> model is so new that the driver doesn't know it.
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> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > the 3600 doesn't have hdmi socket so I think it is irrelevant for my
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> > issue.
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> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > The RV635 chip does support HDMI outputs (even if none are
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> > actually
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> > > > > > > connected), so the corresponding PCI device shows up here.
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> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >>> If you update the kernel, you will get two devices named "HDA
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> > ATI
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> > > > > > > HDMI".
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> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > upgrade to where?
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> > > > > > > Oops. Even the latest driver lacks the PCI IDs of many HDMI HDA
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> > devices
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> > > > > > > (aa50/aa58/aa60/aa68/aa80/aa88/aa90/aa98:
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> > > > > > > Cypress/Juniper/Redwood/Cedar/
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> > > > > > > Cayman+Antilles/Barts/Turks/Caicos).
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> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > Alex, are these devices that require disabling snooping?
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> > > > > >
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> > > > > > Sorry what does snooping mean in this context?
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> > > > >
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> > > > > Most of HD-audio controller have a snoop control, but the recent AMD
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> > > > > HDMI audio controller don't have the feature, thus the driver must use
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> > > > > the non-cached pages. At least, PCI ID 1002:aaa0, aaa8 and aab0 are
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> > > > > known to require such.
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> > > > >
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> > > > > Now the question is whether all new chips above (aa50,...) require the
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> > > > > same workaround, too. Could you check this or forward the inquiry to
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> > > > > someone in AMD?
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> > > >
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> > > > According to our internal teams, disabling snooping is only required on
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> > the audio parts included in Evergreen and Northern Islands GPUs. Older chips
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> > like R7xx (aa48) and newer chips like Southern Islands (aaa0) are able to use
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> > snooping. I'm not real familiar with the audio portions of the GPUs so if you
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> > need further clarification, let me know.
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> > >
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> > > Thanks for the information.
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> > >
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> > > Though, it's strange that the information doesn't match with what I've
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> > > heard (and also with what I've tested with a laptop). I've heard that
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> > > it's Southern Island HDMI that needs the snoop-disablement.
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> > >
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> > > Could you ask again whether it's really Evergreen / Nothern Islands?
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> > > thanks,
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> > >
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> > > Takashi
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> > > >
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> > > > Alex
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> > > > >
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> > > > > FWIW, such a chip needs to set AZX_DRIVER_ATIHDMI_NS bits in
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> > > > > driver_data of pci entries in sound/pci/hda/hda_intel.c.
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> > > > > thanks,
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> > > > > Takashi
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> > any updates on the matter guys?
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> Haven't heard back. I'll ping them again.
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> Alex

sorry for nudging, any updates?