[alsa-devel] alsa-devel on vger

[Takashi Iwai]

At Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:27:38 +0100 (CET),
Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> 
> > At Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:14:34 +0100 (CET),
> > Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Rene Herman wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On 21-11-07 17:54, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > What about the plan to move alsa-devel to vger?
> > > > > Shouldn't we do that soon?
> > > > 
> > > > Jaroslav hasn't yet pointed alsa-devel at alsa-project.org at vger. 
> > > > It's a little unfortunate that David wouldn't just transfer 
> > > > subscriptions as it seems that's where things stalled again. Given 
> > > > our still recent move from sourceforge it really should be okay to 
> > > > just move everyone over.
> > > > 
> > > > I noticed that the entirety of people thanking David for setting up 
> > > > the list consisted of alsa-devel moderators, you and me, and I 
> > > > suspect most other subscribers don't feel there's actually much 
> > > > wrong with things as they are today and mostly consider moving again 
> > > > a nuisance. The one other reaction to the move was a slightly 
> > > > annoyed reaction about the re-subscribing...
> > > 
> > > I'm playing with idea to redirect alsa-devel at alsa-project.org to vger and 
> > > leave current mailing list (which is subscribed to vger now too). So every 
> > > e-mail to this list will go through vger, and resubscription will be only 
> > > choice of subscriber. Opinions?
> > 
> > A couple of things:
> > 
> > - the official address (on kernel tree and wiki) should be vger, not
> >   alsa-project.org, and promote to re-subscribe.
> 
> Changing e-mail address of list is something I don't want.
> The official e-mail address for alsa-devel mailing list was always 
> alsa-devel at alsa-project.org (even in time when this list was on 
> sourceforge). Unfortunately, vger mailing list does not accept simple 
> redirected e-mails from alsa-devel at alsa-project.org so I postponed any 
> actions.
> 
> > - open alsa-project.org list again.  I'll stop list admin works.
> 
> I tried to count some statistics and at the time spamassassin and 
> mailman filtering rules catch 92% of spam messages coming to alsa-devel.
> Unfortunately remaining 8% means 20 spam messages daily (without 
> moderation). Could moderators confirm this value?

The problem is rather the nature of subscribers-only list.  It
requires approval if any non-list user posts.  So when the list is
CC'ed, you'll need more approval works and loose the synchronism.


BTW, it seems that some my posts have been lost in a day that
alsa-devel ML stopped.  The above quoted post seems not delivered
unless you were on Cc...


Takashi