[alsa-devel] Regressions: MSI vs HDA-Intel
I have two systems that use the alsa hda-intel driver, both show regressions in relation to MSI.
System 1: Athlon(tm) X2 BE-2400 with an AMD RS690/SB600 chipset 00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) [1002:4383] (Mainboard is a MSI MS-7368)
After upgrading from 2.6.31 to 2.6.33 I get a delay during bootup: [ 1.155925] HDA Intel 0000:00:14.2: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 1.159143] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input2 [ 1.232595] firewire_core: created device fw0: GUID 00dc10000129c48f, S400 [ 1.252677] hda_codec: ALC888: BIOS auto-probing. [ 1.259226] HDA Intel 0000:01:05.2: PCI INT B -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 [ 1.260293] HDA Intel 0000:01:05.2: irq 27 for MSI/MSI-X [ 1.314712] input: GenPS/2 Genius Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input3 [ 4.322508] hda-intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 5.332508] hda-intel: No response from codec, disabling MSI: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 6.342508] hda-intel: Codec #0 probe error; disabling it... [ 7.392508] hda_intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to single_cmd mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 7.430464] ALSA device list: [ 7.431549] #0: HDA ATI SB at 0xfe7f4000 irq 16 [ 7.432656] #1: HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfe9e8000 irq 27
2.6.34-rc2 does not boot on this system, something related to the new bootmem allocator, so I can't say if this might already be fixed for 2.6.34.
Should the system be blacklisted like the two Asus Athlon X2 boards, or is this some other bug?
System 2: Opteron(tm) 2218 with an nVidia MCP55 chipset 00:06.1 Audio device [0403]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio [10de:0371] (rev a2) (Mainboard is an ASUS KFN5-D SLI)
Commit 80c43ed724797627d8f86855248c497a6161a214 disabled MSI for this system, but the MSI mode was working fine for all 2.6.33 versions I used.
Should the generic blacklist disable MSI for all Athlon X2 instead of all nNvidia chipsets?
If you need more information, please ask, I will try to provide anything you need.
Thanks, Torsten
At Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:25:22 +0100, Torsten Kaiser wrote:
I have two systems that use the alsa hda-intel driver, both show regressions in relation to MSI.
System 1: Athlon(tm) X2 BE-2400 with an AMD RS690/SB600 chipset 00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) [1002:4383] (Mainboard is a MSI MS-7368)
After upgrading from 2.6.31 to 2.6.33 I get a delay during bootup: [ 1.155925] HDA Intel 0000:00:14.2: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 1.159143] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input2 [ 1.232595] firewire_core: created device fw0: GUID 00dc10000129c48f, S400 [ 1.252677] hda_codec: ALC888: BIOS auto-probing. [ 1.259226] HDA Intel 0000:01:05.2: PCI INT B -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 [ 1.260293] HDA Intel 0000:01:05.2: irq 27 for MSI/MSI-X [ 1.314712] input: GenPS/2 Genius Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input3 [ 4.322508] hda-intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 5.332508] hda-intel: No response from codec, disabling MSI: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 6.342508] hda-intel: Codec #0 probe error; disabling it... [ 7.392508] hda_intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to single_cmd mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 7.430464] ALSA device list: [ 7.431549] #0: HDA ATI SB at 0xfe7f4000 irq 16 [ 7.432656] #1: HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfe9e8000 irq 27
2.6.34-rc2 does not boot on this system, something related to the new bootmem allocator, so I can't say if this might already be fixed for 2.6.34.
Should the system be blacklisted like the two Asus Athlon X2 boards, or is this some other bug?
If it happens on 2.6.33 and enable_msi=0 solves the issue, then yes, we should put them on the blacklist.
System 2: Opteron(tm) 2218 with an nVidia MCP55 chipset 00:06.1 Audio device [0403]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio [10de:0371] (rev a2) (Mainboard is an ASUS KFN5-D SLI)
Commit 80c43ed724797627d8f86855248c497a6161a214 disabled MSI for this system, but the MSI mode was working fine for all 2.6.33 versions I used.
Should the generic blacklist disable MSI for all Athlon X2 instead of all nNvidia chipsets?
Well, it's not clear yet. I don't bet that non-athlon would have any problem. So I keep it still disabled for Nvidia controllers. You can put it in the whitelist instead.
thanks,
Takashi
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Takashi Iwai tiwai@suse.de wrote:
At Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:25:22 +0100, Torsten Kaiser wrote:
I have two systems that use the alsa hda-intel driver, both show regressions in relation to MSI.
System 1: Athlon(tm) X2 BE-2400 with an AMD RS690/SB600 chipset 00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) [1002:4383] (Mainboard is a MSI MS-7368)
After upgrading from 2.6.31 to 2.6.33 I get a delay during bootup: [ 1.155925] HDA Intel 0000:00:14.2: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 1.159143] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input2 [ 1.232595] firewire_core: created device fw0: GUID 00dc10000129c48f, S400 [ 1.252677] hda_codec: ALC888: BIOS auto-probing. [ 1.259226] HDA Intel 0000:01:05.2: PCI INT B -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 [ 1.260293] HDA Intel 0000:01:05.2: irq 27 for MSI/MSI-X [ 1.314712] input: GenPS/2 Genius Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input3 [ 4.322508] hda-intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 5.332508] hda-intel: No response from codec, disabling MSI: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 6.342508] hda-intel: Codec #0 probe error; disabling it... [ 7.392508] hda_intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to single_cmd mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 7.430464] ALSA device list: [ 7.431549] #0: HDA ATI SB at 0xfe7f4000 irq 16 [ 7.432656] #1: HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfe9e8000 irq 27
2.6.34-rc2 does not boot on this system, something related to the new bootmem allocator, so I can't say if this might already be fixed for 2.6.34.
Should the system be blacklisted like the two Asus Athlon X2 boards, or is this some other bug?
If it happens on 2.6.33 and enable_msi=0 solves the issue, then yes, we should put them on the blacklist.
Surprisingly this did not fix the delay. After all the trouble I had with MSI on the other system, I was sure it was related to the fact, that 2.6.33 tried to use MSI. 2.6.33 with snd_hda_intel.enable_msi=0: [ 1.155712] HDA Intel 0000:00:14.2: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 1.158852] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/in put/input2 [ 1.232597] firewire_core: created device fw0: GUID 00dc10000129c48f, S400 [ 1.252679] hda_codec: ALC888: BIOS auto-probing. [ 1.259206] HDA Intel 0000:01:05.2: PCI INT B -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 [ 1.314745] input: GenPS/2 Genius Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input3 [ 4.322508] hda-intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 5.332508] hda-intel: Codec #0 probe error; disabling it... [ 6.382508] hda_intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to single_cmd mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 6.420470] ALSA device list: [ 6.421545] #0: HDA ATI SB at 0xfe7f4000 irq 16 [ 6.422628] #1: HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfe9e8000 irq 19
... if I had read these messages, instead of just copy&pasting them, I could have noted, that the delay is from codec *0*, but MSI gets enabled for codec *1*. Info about the HDMI output: 01:05.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1200 Series Audio Controller [1002:7919]
But that is a clear bug in the alsa code: After codec 0 (the integrated audio from the SB600) does not responds, it disables the MSI support for codec 1 (part of the intregrated graphic chipset). (I don't know if the HDMI audio support is working or not, as I do not have an HDMI display I could attach there.)
2.6.31 was working without the delay: [ 0.930754] HDA Intel 0000:00:14.2: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 0.946676] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input2 [ 1.031402] hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC888, trying auto-probe from BIOS... [ 1.035263] HDA Intel 0000:01:05.2: PCI INT B -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 [ 1.090754] input: GenPS/2 Genius Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input3 [ 1.102573] firewire_core: created device fw0: GUID 00dc10000129c48f, S400 [ 1.112916] ALSA device list: [ 1.112974] #0: HDA ATI SB at 0xfe7f4000 irq 16 [ 1.113033] #1: HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfe9e8000 irq 19
System 2: Opteron(tm) 2218 with an nVidia MCP55 chipset 00:06.1 Audio device [0403]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio [10de:0371] (rev a2) (Mainboard is an ASUS KFN5-D SLI)
Commit 80c43ed724797627d8f86855248c497a6161a214 disabled MSI for this system, but the MSI mode was working fine for all 2.6.33 versions I used.
Should the generic blacklist disable MSI for all Athlon X2 instead of all nNvidia chipsets?
Well, it's not clear yet. I don't bet that non-athlon would have any problem. So I keep it still disabled for Nvidia controllers. You can put it in the whitelist instead.
OK, just wanted to let you know, that there are MCP55 out there that do work with MSI. :-)
Thanks, Torsten
At Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:59:17 +0100, Torsten Kaiser wrote:
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Takashi Iwai tiwai@suse.de wrote:
At Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:25:22 +0100, Torsten Kaiser wrote:
I have two systems that use the alsa hda-intel driver, both show regressions in relation to MSI.
System 1: Athlon(tm) X2 BE-2400 with an AMD RS690/SB600 chipset 00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) [1002:4383] (Mainboard is a MSI MS-7368)
After upgrading from 2.6.31 to 2.6.33 I get a delay during bootup: [ 1.155925] HDA Intel 0000:00:14.2: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 1.159143] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input2 [ 1.232595] firewire_core: created device fw0: GUID 00dc10000129c48f, S400 [ 1.252677] hda_codec: ALC888: BIOS auto-probing. [ 1.259226] HDA Intel 0000:01:05.2: PCI INT B -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 [ 1.260293] HDA Intel 0000:01:05.2: irq 27 for MSI/MSI-X [ 1.314712] input: GenPS/2 Genius Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input3 [ 4.322508] hda-intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 5.332508] hda-intel: No response from codec, disabling MSI: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 6.342508] hda-intel: Codec #0 probe error; disabling it... [ 7.392508] hda_intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to single_cmd mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 7.430464] ALSA device list: [ 7.431549] #0: HDA ATI SB at 0xfe7f4000 irq 16 [ 7.432656] #1: HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfe9e8000 irq 27
2.6.34-rc2 does not boot on this system, something related to the new bootmem allocator, so I can't say if this might already be fixed for 2.6.34.
Should the system be blacklisted like the two Asus Athlon X2 boards, or is this some other bug?
If it happens on 2.6.33 and enable_msi=0 solves the issue, then yes, we should put them on the blacklist.
Surprisingly this did not fix the delay. After all the trouble I had with MSI on the other system, I was sure it was related to the fact, that 2.6.33 tried to use MSI. 2.6.33 with snd_hda_intel.enable_msi=0: [ 1.155712] HDA Intel 0000:00:14.2: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 1.158852] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/in put/input2 [ 1.232597] firewire_core: created device fw0: GUID 00dc10000129c48f, S400 [ 1.252679] hda_codec: ALC888: BIOS auto-probing. [ 1.259206] HDA Intel 0000:01:05.2: PCI INT B -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 [ 1.314745] input: GenPS/2 Genius Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input3 [ 4.322508] hda-intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 5.332508] hda-intel: Codec #0 probe error; disabling it... [ 6.382508] hda_intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to single_cmd mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 6.420470] ALSA device list: [ 6.421545] #0: HDA ATI SB at 0xfe7f4000 irq 16 [ 6.422628] #1: HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfe9e8000 irq 19
... if I had read these messages, instead of just copy&pasting them, I could have noted, that the delay is from codec *0*, but MSI gets enabled for codec *1*. Info about the HDMI output: 01:05.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1200 Series Audio Controller [1002:7919]
But that is a clear bug in the alsa code: After codec 0 (the integrated audio from the SB600) does not responds, it disables the MSI support for codec 1 (part of the intregrated graphic chipset). (I don't know if the HDMI audio support is working or not, as I do not have an HDMI display I could attach there.)
It's no bug. The driver has only one flag to use MSI or not. So it disable MSI for both. It's on the same board, after all, so better to take a safer option.
2.6.31 was working without the delay: [ 0.930754] HDA Intel 0000:00:14.2: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 0.946676] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input2 [ 1.031402] hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC888, trying auto-probe from BIOS... [ 1.035263] HDA Intel 0000:01:05.2: PCI INT B -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 [ 1.090754] input: GenPS/2 Genius Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input3 [ 1.102573] firewire_core: created device fw0: GUID 00dc10000129c48f, S400 [ 1.112916] ALSA device list: [ 1.112974] #0: HDA ATI SB at 0xfe7f4000 irq 16 [ 1.113033] #1: HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfe9e8000 irq 19
System 2: Opteron(tm) 2218 with an nVidia MCP55 chipset 00:06.1 Audio device [0403]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio [10de:0371] (rev a2) (Mainboard is an ASUS KFN5-D SLI)
Commit 80c43ed724797627d8f86855248c497a6161a214 disabled MSI for this system, but the MSI mode was working fine for all 2.6.33 versions I used.
Should the generic blacklist disable MSI for all Athlon X2 instead of all nNvidia chipsets?
Well, it's not clear yet. I don't bet that non-athlon would have any problem. So I keep it still disabled for Nvidia controllers. You can put it in the whitelist instead.
OK, just wanted to let you know, that there are MCP55 out there that do work with MSI. :-)
That's fine. There must be some other positive boards . But I don't want to give more and more bug reports just because of buggy MSI support. That's enough in a single version number :) The gain by MSI isn't so much in most cases.
Takashi
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Takashi Iwai tiwai@suse.de wrote:
At Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:59:17 +0100, Torsten Kaiser wrote:
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Takashi Iwai tiwai@suse.de wrote:
At Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:25:22 +0100, Torsten Kaiser wrote:
I have two systems that use the alsa hda-intel driver, both show regressions in relation to MSI.
System 1: Athlon(tm) X2 BE-2400 with an AMD RS690/SB600 chipset 00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) [1002:4383] (Mainboard is a MSI MS-7368)
After upgrading from 2.6.31 to 2.6.33 I get a delay during bootup: [ 1.155925] HDA Intel 0000:00:14.2: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 1.159143] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input2 [ 1.232595] firewire_core: created device fw0: GUID 00dc10000129c48f, S400 [ 1.252677] hda_codec: ALC888: BIOS auto-probing. [ 1.259226] HDA Intel 0000:01:05.2: PCI INT B -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 [ 1.260293] HDA Intel 0000:01:05.2: irq 27 for MSI/MSI-X [ 1.314712] input: GenPS/2 Genius Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input3 [ 4.322508] hda-intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 5.332508] hda-intel: No response from codec, disabling MSI: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 6.342508] hda-intel: Codec #0 probe error; disabling it... [ 7.392508] hda_intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to single_cmd mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 7.430464] ALSA device list: [ 7.431549] #0: HDA ATI SB at 0xfe7f4000 irq 16 [ 7.432656] #1: HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfe9e8000 irq 27
2.6.34-rc2 does not boot on this system, something related to the new bootmem allocator, so I can't say if this might already be fixed for 2.6.34.
Should the system be blacklisted like the two Asus Athlon X2 boards, or is this some other bug?
If it happens on 2.6.33 and enable_msi=0 solves the issue, then yes, we should put them on the blacklist.
Surprisingly this did not fix the delay. After all the trouble I had with MSI on the other system, I was sure it was related to the fact, that 2.6.33 tried to use MSI. 2.6.33 with snd_hda_intel.enable_msi=0: [ 1.155712] HDA Intel 0000:00:14.2: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 1.158852] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/in put/input2 [ 1.232597] firewire_core: created device fw0: GUID 00dc10000129c48f, S400 [ 1.252679] hda_codec: ALC888: BIOS auto-probing. [ 1.259206] HDA Intel 0000:01:05.2: PCI INT B -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 [ 1.314745] input: GenPS/2 Genius Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input3 [ 4.322508] hda-intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 5.332508] hda-intel: Codec #0 probe error; disabling it... [ 6.382508] hda_intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to single_cmd mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 6.420470] ALSA device list: [ 6.421545] #0: HDA ATI SB at 0xfe7f4000 irq 16 [ 6.422628] #1: HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfe9e8000 irq 19
... if I had read these messages, instead of just copy&pasting them, I could have noted, that the delay is from codec *0*, but MSI gets enabled for codec *1*. Info about the HDMI output: 01:05.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1200 Series Audio Controller [1002:7919]
But that is a clear bug in the alsa code: After codec 0 (the integrated audio from the SB600) does not responds, it disables the MSI support for codec 1 (part of the intregrated graphic chipset). (I don't know if the HDMI audio support is working or not, as I do not have an HDMI display I could attach there.)
It's no bug. The driver has only one flag to use MSI or not. So it disable MSI for both. It's on the same board, after all, so better to take a safer option.
It's a bug, because the failing codec 0 never used MSI at all. So disabling it will not help.
The first log (without the MSI disable option) showed: codec 0 was using IRQ 16 codec 1 was using IRQ 19, but got switched to MSI-IRQ 27 then the 5 sec pause followed, because codec 0 failed. switching off MSI for codec 1 seemed to work, because I only see hda_intel on IRQ 16 and 19 in /proc/interrupts. But the device list still showed "#1: HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfe9e8000 irq 27" after the "No response from codec, disabling MSI" message!
The second log showed the same sequence: codec 0 using IRQ 16, codec 1 using 19, but this time without the switch to 27 the 5 sec pause and the failing of codec 0 still append, because the ALC888 never used MSI.
So I think there are two bugs: One (the regression) that the ALC888 codec is no longer initialized correctly, and so causing the delay during the boot. And two that the fallback in azx_rirb_get_response() tries to disable the never enabled MSI. ... Umm. The code disagrees with my description of bug two: It already does check for an per chip msi flag.
I will try to add more debug to see what codec emits what errors, and post again, with that information.
Thanks, Torsten
At Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:07:53 +0100, Torsten Kaiser wrote:
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Takashi Iwai tiwai@suse.de wrote:
At Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:59:17 +0100, Torsten Kaiser wrote:
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Takashi Iwai tiwai@suse.de wrote:
At Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:25:22 +0100, Torsten Kaiser wrote:
I have two systems that use the alsa hda-intel driver, both show regressions in relation to MSI.
System 1: Athlon(tm) X2 BE-2400 with an AMD RS690/SB600 chipset 00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) [1002:4383] (Mainboard is a MSI MS-7368)
After upgrading from 2.6.31 to 2.6.33 I get a delay during bootup: [ 1.155925] HDA Intel 0000:00:14.2: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 1.159143] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input2 [ 1.232595] firewire_core: created device fw0: GUID 00dc10000129c48f, S400 [ 1.252677] hda_codec: ALC888: BIOS auto-probing. [ 1.259226] HDA Intel 0000:01:05.2: PCI INT B -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 [ 1.260293] HDA Intel 0000:01:05.2: irq 27 for MSI/MSI-X [ 1.314712] input: GenPS/2 Genius Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input3 [ 4.322508] hda-intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 5.332508] hda-intel: No response from codec, disabling MSI: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 6.342508] hda-intel: Codec #0 probe error; disabling it... [ 7.392508] hda_intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to single_cmd mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 7.430464] ALSA device list: [ 7.431549] #0: HDA ATI SB at 0xfe7f4000 irq 16 [ 7.432656] #1: HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfe9e8000 irq 27
2.6.34-rc2 does not boot on this system, something related to the new bootmem allocator, so I can't say if this might already be fixed for 2.6.34.
Should the system be blacklisted like the two Asus Athlon X2 boards, or is this some other bug?
If it happens on 2.6.33 and enable_msi=0 solves the issue, then yes, we should put them on the blacklist.
Surprisingly this did not fix the delay. After all the trouble I had with MSI on the other system, I was sure it was related to the fact, that 2.6.33 tried to use MSI. 2.6.33 with snd_hda_intel.enable_msi=0: [ 1.155712] HDA Intel 0000:00:14.2: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 1.158852] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/in put/input2 [ 1.232597] firewire_core: created device fw0: GUID 00dc10000129c48f, S400 [ 1.252679] hda_codec: ALC888: BIOS auto-probing. [ 1.259206] HDA Intel 0000:01:05.2: PCI INT B -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 [ 1.314745] input: GenPS/2 Genius Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input3 [ 4.322508] hda-intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 5.332508] hda-intel: Codec #0 probe error; disabling it... [ 6.382508] hda_intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to single_cmd mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 6.420470] ALSA device list: [ 6.421545] #0: HDA ATI SB at 0xfe7f4000 irq 16 [ 6.422628] #1: HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfe9e8000 irq 19
... if I had read these messages, instead of just copy&pasting them, I could have noted, that the delay is from codec *0*, but MSI gets enabled for codec *1*. Info about the HDMI output: 01:05.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1200 Series Audio Controller [1002:7919]
But that is a clear bug in the alsa code: After codec 0 (the integrated audio from the SB600) does not responds, it disables the MSI support for codec 1 (part of the intregrated graphic chipset). (I don't know if the HDMI audio support is working or not, as I do not have an HDMI display I could attach there.)
It's no bug. The driver has only one flag to use MSI or not. So it disable MSI for both. It's on the same board, after all, so better to take a safer option.
It's a bug, because the failing codec 0 never used MSI at all. So disabling it will not help.
The first log (without the MSI disable option) showed: codec 0 was using IRQ 16 codec 1 was using IRQ 19, but got switched to MSI-IRQ 27 then the 5 sec pause followed, because codec 0 failed. switching off MSI for codec 1 seemed to work, because I only see hda_intel on IRQ 16 and 19 in /proc/interrupts. But the device list still showed "#1: HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfe9e8000 irq 27" after the "No response from codec, disabling MSI" message!
This is no driver behavior bug. The point is that this string (chip->longname) was set at the time before disabling MSI. The driver can switch back at any time, but the string remains as is. One reason is that this field is exposed to the user-space as a sort of identifier, thus it's not always wise to change it dynamically during operation. Yeah, it's confusing, but this is a trade-off.
The second log showed the same sequence: codec 0 using IRQ 16, codec 1 using 19, but this time without the switch to 27 the 5 sec pause and the failing of codec 0 still append, because the ALC888 never used MSI.
So I think there are two bugs: One (the regression) that the ALC888 codec is no longer initialized correctly, and so causing the delay during the boot.
This seems irrelevant with the MSI.
And two that the fallback in azx_rirb_get_response() tries to disable the never enabled MSI.
And this is the designed behavior. We've never trusted MSI from experiences. So, prepared to go away from it at any moment :)
Takashi
... Umm. The code disagrees with my description of bug two: It already does check for an per chip msi flag.
I will try to add more debug to see what codec emits what errors, and post again, with that information.
Thanks, Torsten
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Takashi Iwai tiwai@suse.de wrote:
At Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:07:53 +0100, Torsten Kaiser wrote:
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Takashi Iwai tiwai@suse.de wrote:
At Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:59:17 +0100, Torsten Kaiser wrote:
Surprisingly this did not fix the delay. After all the trouble I had with MSI on the other system, I was sure it was related to the fact, that 2.6.33 tried to use MSI. 2.6.33 with snd_hda_intel.enable_msi=0: [ 1.155712] HDA Intel 0000:00:14.2: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 1.158852] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/in put/input2 [ 1.232597] firewire_core: created device fw0: GUID 00dc10000129c48f, S400 [ 1.252679] hda_codec: ALC888: BIOS auto-probing. [ 1.259206] HDA Intel 0000:01:05.2: PCI INT B -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 [ 1.314745] input: GenPS/2 Genius Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input3 [ 4.322508] hda-intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 5.332508] hda-intel: Codec #0 probe error; disabling it... [ 6.382508] hda_intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to single_cmd mode: last cmd=0x000f0000 [ 6.420470] ALSA device list: [ 6.421545] #0: HDA ATI SB at 0xfe7f4000 irq 16 [ 6.422628] #1: HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfe9e8000 irq 19
... if I had read these messages, instead of just copy&pasting them, I could have noted, that the delay is from codec *0*, but MSI gets enabled for codec *1*. Info about the HDMI output: 01:05.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1200 Series Audio Controller [1002:7919]
But that is a clear bug in the alsa code: After codec 0 (the integrated audio from the SB600) does not responds, it disables the MSI support for codec 1 (part of the intregrated graphic chipset). (I don't know if the HDMI audio support is working or not, as I do not have an HDMI display I could attach there.)
It's no bug. The driver has only one flag to use MSI or not. So it disable MSI for both. It's on the same board, after all, so better to take a safer option.
It's a bug, because the failing codec 0 never used MSI at all. So disabling it will not help.
The first log (without the MSI disable option) showed: codec 0 was using IRQ 16 codec 1 was using IRQ 19, but got switched to MSI-IRQ 27 then the 5 sec pause followed, because codec 0 failed. switching off MSI for codec 1 seemed to work, because I only see hda_intel on IRQ 16 and 19 in /proc/interrupts. But the device list still showed "#1: HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfe9e8000 irq 27" after the "No response from codec, disabling MSI" message!
This is no driver behavior bug. The point is that this string (chip->longname) was set at the time before disabling MSI. The driver can switch back at any time, but the string remains as is. One reason is that this field is exposed to the user-space as a sort of identifier, thus it's not always wise to change it dynamically during operation. Yeah, it's confusing, but this is a trade-off.
Ah, ok. I understand this trade-off.
The second log showed the same sequence: codec 0 using IRQ 16, codec 1 using 19, but this time without the switch to 27 the 5 sec pause and the failing of codec 0 still append, because the ALC888 never used MSI.
So I think there are two bugs: One (the regression) that the ALC888 codec is no longer initialized correctly, and so causing the delay during the boot.
This seems irrelevant with the MSI.
What I wrote was bogus. I confused the listing of #0 and #1 from the "ALSA device list" with the message about "Codec #0"
After adding more debug output into hda_intel.c, I could see that the initialisation of the SB600/ALC888 and the ATIHDMI "cards" are not done in parallel (Like the messages from the input subsystem and the firewire core that can be seen between the alsa messages), but serial. So all the messages about the failing codec and MSI belong to 0000:01:05.2, the HDMI output.
But this is rather confusing: Alsa "card" #0, the SB600/ALC888, only has one codec #3 and "card" #1 has a codec #0.
So the ALC888 (that never tries MSI) works perfect in 2.6.31 and 2.6.33. The ATIHDMI has a regession that the initialisation in 2.6.33 needs ~6 seconds, while 2.6.31 only needed 0.08 seconds. (Compared to the total time of 1.4 seconds that 2.6.31 needed until "Freeing unused kernel memory" that is rather significant)
I can't say if the HDMI output in 2.6.31 worked, because I have no devices that I could attach there to test this.
Torsten
And two that the fallback in azx_rirb_get_response() tries to disable the never enabled MSI.
And this is the designed behavior. We've never trusted MSI from experiences. So, prepared to go away from it at any moment :)
Takashi
... Umm. The code disagrees with my description of bug two: It already does check for an per chip msi flag.
I will try to add more debug to see what codec emits what errors, and post again, with that information.
Thanks, Torsten
Torsten Kaiser wrote:
So all the messages about the failing codec and MSI belong to 0000:01:05.2, the HDMI output.
MSI seems to be broken on all(?) Radeon IGPs; see http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/3/30/290.
Torsten, what is the output of "lspci -nn" on your first system?
Regards, Clemens
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