[alsa-devel] left/right bleed or crossover
I'm encountering the following problem on Fedora Core 6 running on a Dell Optiplex 745. This is a pretty vanilla computer with an ICH8 chipset and integrated AD1983 sound capabilities. I have wired up a funky line-input cable so that I have completely separate audio sources playing on the left and right inputs. When I either play these through to the speaker output directly (using alsamixer), or record the audio using arecord, the result is that there is a slight bit of bleeding or crossover, so I can faintly hear the left input on the right channel, and vice versa. If I record a wav file and then play it on another computer, the left/right bleeding follows the wav file, so it seems that the problem is in the capture process somehow. When I install Windows XP onto the same machine, the problem disappears, so I can rule out hardware errors. The application I'm working on relies on being able to reliably capture the right and left channels of audio independently. Since the problem can be seen using the standard arecord/aplay tools, though, I don't think it's my code. I've tried all the possible combinations inside alsamixer, and I don't think there's anything I've messed up there. I've put the relevant system details below. Thanks for any help you can provide. --Howdy ============================= Howdy Pierce Managing Partner Cardinal Peak, LLC work: (303) 665-3962 x101 cell: (303) 589-1645 email: howdy@cardinalpeak.com web: www.cardinalpeak.com ============================= [root@dundee ~]# cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDA Intel at 0xdfdfc000 irq 169 [root@dundee ~]# cat /proc/asound/devices 2: : timer 3: : sequencer 4: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback 5: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback 6: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture 7: [ 0] : control [root@dundee ~]# lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Memory Controller Hub (rev 02) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 PCI Express Root Port (rev 02) 00:02.0 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 02) 00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI #5 (rev 02) 00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI #2 (rev 02) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02) 00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 5 (rev 02) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 02) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 02) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 02) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI #1 (rev 02) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev f2) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801HB/HR (ICH8/R) LPC Interface Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) 4 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) 2 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 02) 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5754 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02) 04:02.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x] (rev c1) [root@dundee ~]# rpm --query --all | grep alsa alsa-lib-1.0.12-2.fc6 alsa-lib-devel-1.0.12-2.fc6 alsa-utils-1.0.12-3.fc6 [root@dundee Intel]# cat /proc/asound/Intel/codec#0 Codec: Analog Devices AD1983 Address: 0 Vendor Id: 0x11d41983 Subsystem Id: 0x102801da Revision Id: 0x100400 Default PCM: rates 0x07f, bits 0x0e, types 0x1 Default Amp-In caps: N/A Default Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x3d, nsteps=0x3f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x30311: Stereo Digital PCM: rates 0x060, bits 0x02, types 0x5 Connection: 2 0x01* 0x04 Node 0x03 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x441: Stereo Power: 0x0 Node 0x04 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x100501: Stereo Power: 0x0 Connection: 1 0x14 Node 0x05 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400185: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x3d, nsteps=0x3f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x32 0x32] Pincap 0x0817: OUT Detect Pin Default 0x01014010: [Jack] Line Out at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Green Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Connection: 2 0x03 0x0e* Node 0x06 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400185: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x3d, nsteps=0x3f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x25 0x25] Pincap 0x081f: OUT HP Detect Pin Default 0x0221101f: [Jack] HP Out at Ext Front Conn = 1/8, Color = Black Pin-ctls: 0xc0: OUT HP Connection: 2 0x03 0x0e* Node 0x07 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400104: Mono Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x3d, nsteps=0x3f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x80] Pincap 0x0810: OUT Pin Default 0x991301f0: [Fixed] Speaker at Int ATAPI Conn = ATAPI, Color = Unknown Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Connection: 1 0x0f Node 0x08 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400081: Stereo Pincap 0x081727: IN Detect Pin Default 0x02a11020: [Jack] Mic at Ext Front Conn = 1/8, Color = Black Pin-ctls: 0x24: IN Node 0x09 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400081: Stereo Pincap 0x081727: IN Detect Pin Default 0x0181302e: [Jack] Line In at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Blue Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN Node 0x0a [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400301: Stereo Digital Pincap 0x0810: OUT Pin Default 0x414511f0: [N/A] SPDIF Out at Ext Rear Conn = Optical, Color = Black Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Connection: 1 0x02 Node 0x0b [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300101: Stereo Connection: 4 0x03 0x0c 0x0d 0x0e* Node 0x0c [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Connection: 2 0x08* 0x09 Node 0x0d [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300101: Stereo Connection: 2 0x09* 0x08 Node 0x0e [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x200101: Stereo Connection: 3 0x11 0x12 0x13 Node 0x0f [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x200100: Mono Connection: 1 0x0b Node 0x10 [Beep Generator Widget] wcaps 0x70000c: Mono Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x0f, nsteps=0x0f, stepsize=0x0b, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x80] Node 0x11 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x17, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x97 0x17] Connection: 1 0x03 Node 0x12 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x17, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x80 0x80] Connection: 1 0x0c Node 0x13 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x17, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x9f 0x9f] Connection: 1 0x0d Node 0x14 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x0f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x0f 0x0f] Connection: 4 0x0c 0x0d* 0x0e 0x0f Node 0x15 [Power Widget] wcaps 0x500500: Mono Power: 0x0 Connection: 15 0x05 0x06* 0x07 0x08 0x09 0x0b 0x0c 0x0d 0x0e 0x0f 0x10 0x11 0x12 0x13 0x14
At Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:25:12 -0600, Howdy Pierce wrote:
I'm encountering the following problem on Fedora Core 6 running on a Dell Optiplex 745. This is a pretty vanilla computer with an ICH8 chipset and integrated AD1983 sound capabilities.
I have wired up a funky line-input cable so that I have completely separate audio sources playing on the left and right inputs.
When I either play these through to the speaker output directly (using alsamixer), or record the audio using arecord, the result is that there is a slight bit of bleeding or crossover, so I can faintly hear the left input on the right channel, and vice versa. If I record a wav file and then play it on another computer, the left/right bleeding follows the wav file, so it seems that the problem is in the capture process somehow.
When I install Windows XP onto the same machine, the problem disappears, so I can rule out hardware errors.
The application I'm working on relies on being able to reliably capture the right and left channels of audio independently. Since the problem can be seen using the standard arecord/aplay tools, though, I don't think it's my code.
I've tried all the possible combinations inside alsamixer, and I don't think there's anything I've messed up there.
I've put the relevant system details below. Thanks for any help you can provide.
To investigate where the problem exists, try to use "hw" PCM first without alsa-lib plugins. If the problem still remains, it's in the driver (that I don't expect since your codec dump looks sane to me). Takashi
--Howdy
============================= Howdy Pierce Managing Partner Cardinal Peak, LLC
work: (303) 665-3962 x101 cell: (303) 589-1645 email: howdy@cardinalpeak.com web: www.cardinalpeak.com =============================
[root@dundee ~]# cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDA Intel at 0xdfdfc000 irq 169
[root@dundee ~]# cat /proc/asound/devices 2: : timer 3: : sequencer 4: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback 5: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback 6: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture 7: [ 0] : control
[root@dundee ~]# lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Memory Controller Hub (rev 02) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 PCI Express Root Port (rev 02) 00:02.0 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 02) 00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI #5 (rev 02) 00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI #2 (rev 02) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02) 00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 5 (rev 02) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 02) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 02) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 02) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI #1 (rev 02) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev f2) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801HB/HR (ICH8/R) LPC Interface Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) 4 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) 2 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 02) 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5754 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02) 04:02.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
[root@dundee ~]# rpm --query --all | grep alsa alsa-lib-1.0.12-2.fc6 alsa-lib-devel-1.0.12-2.fc6 alsa-utils-1.0.12-3.fc6
[root@dundee Intel]# cat /proc/asound/Intel/codec#0 Codec: Analog Devices AD1983 Address: 0 Vendor Id: 0x11d41983 Subsystem Id: 0x102801da Revision Id: 0x100400 Default PCM: rates 0x07f, bits 0x0e, types 0x1 Default Amp-In caps: N/A Default Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x3d, nsteps=0x3f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x30311: Stereo Digital PCM: rates 0x060, bits 0x02, types 0x5 Connection: 2 0x01* 0x04 Node 0x03 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x441: Stereo Power: 0x0 Node 0x04 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x100501: Stereo Power: 0x0 Connection: 1 0x14 Node 0x05 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400185: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x3d, nsteps=0x3f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x32 0x32] Pincap 0x0817: OUT Detect Pin Default 0x01014010: [Jack] Line Out at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Green Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Connection: 2 0x03 0x0e* Node 0x06 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400185: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x3d, nsteps=0x3f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x25 0x25] Pincap 0x081f: OUT HP Detect Pin Default 0x0221101f: [Jack] HP Out at Ext Front Conn = 1/8, Color = Black Pin-ctls: 0xc0: OUT HP Connection: 2 0x03 0x0e* Node 0x07 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400104: Mono Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x3d, nsteps=0x3f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x80] Pincap 0x0810: OUT Pin Default 0x991301f0: [Fixed] Speaker at Int ATAPI Conn = ATAPI, Color = Unknown Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Connection: 1 0x0f Node 0x08 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400081: Stereo Pincap 0x081727: IN Detect Pin Default 0x02a11020: [Jack] Mic at Ext Front Conn = 1/8, Color = Black Pin-ctls: 0x24: IN Node 0x09 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400081: Stereo Pincap 0x081727: IN Detect Pin Default 0x0181302e: [Jack] Line In at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Blue Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN Node 0x0a [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400301: Stereo Digital Pincap 0x0810: OUT Pin Default 0x414511f0: [N/A] SPDIF Out at Ext Rear Conn = Optical, Color = Black Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Connection: 1 0x02 Node 0x0b [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300101: Stereo Connection: 4 0x03 0x0c 0x0d 0x0e* Node 0x0c [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Connection: 2 0x08* 0x09 Node 0x0d [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300101: Stereo Connection: 2 0x09* 0x08 Node 0x0e [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x200101: Stereo Connection: 3 0x11 0x12 0x13 Node 0x0f [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x200100: Mono Connection: 1 0x0b Node 0x10 [Beep Generator Widget] wcaps 0x70000c: Mono Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x0f, nsteps=0x0f, stepsize=0x0b, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x80] Node 0x11 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x17, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x97 0x17] Connection: 1 0x03 Node 0x12 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x17, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x80 0x80] Connection: 1 0x0c Node 0x13 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x17, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x9f 0x9f] Connection: 1 0x0d Node 0x14 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x0f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x0f 0x0f] Connection: 4 0x0c 0x0d* 0x0e 0x0f Node 0x15 [Power Widget] wcaps 0x500500: Mono Power: 0x0 Connection: 15 0x05 0x06* 0x07 0x08 0x09 0x0b 0x0c 0x0d 0x0e 0x0f 0x10 0x11 0x12 0x13 0x14
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Takashi Iwai wrote:
Howdy Pierce wrote:
I'm encountering the following problem on Fedora Core 6 running on a Dell Optiplex 745. This is a pretty vanilla computer with an ICH8 chipset and integrated AD1983 sound capabilities.
I have wired up a funky line-input cable so that I have completely separate audio sources playing on the left and right inputs.
When I either play these through to the speaker output directly (using alsamixer), or record the audio using arecord, the result is that there is a slight bit of bleeding or crossover, so I can faintly hear the left input on the right channel, and vice versa. If I record a wav file and then play it on another computer, the left/right bleeding follows the wav
file, so it seems that the problem is in the capture process somehow.
When I install Windows XP onto the same machine, the problem disappears, so I can rule out hardware errors.
The application I'm working on relies on being able to reliably capture the right and left channels of audio independently. Since the problem can be seen using the standard arecord/aplay tools, though, I don't think
it's my code.
I've tried all the possible combinations inside alsamixer, and I don't think there's anything I've messed up there.
To investigate where the problem exists, try to use "hw" PCM first without alsa-lib plugins. If the problem still remains, it's in the driver (that I don't expect since your codec dump looks sane to me).
Thanks for the response. I assume you want me to record something with arecord --device=hw:0,0 ? The problem still exists with that command line. Where do I need to look next -- the kernel driver? Any theories as to what might be happening here? Has anyone seen something similar before, perhaps on other hardware? --Howdy ============================= Howdy Pierce Managing Partner Cardinal Peak, LLC work: (303) 665-3962 x101 cell: (303) 589-1645 email: howdy@cardinalpeak.com web: www.cardinalpeak.com =============================
At Tue, 3 Jul 2007 17:02:49 -0600, Howdy Pierce wrote:
Takashi Iwai wrote:
Howdy Pierce wrote:
I'm encountering the following problem on Fedora Core 6 running on a Dell Optiplex 745. This is a pretty vanilla computer with an ICH8 chipset and integrated AD1983 sound capabilities.
I have wired up a funky line-input cable so that I have completely separate audio sources playing on the left and right inputs.
When I either play these through to the speaker output directly (using alsamixer), or record the audio using arecord, the result is that there is a slight bit of bleeding or crossover, so I can faintly hear the left input on the right channel, and vice versa. If I record a wav file and then play it on another computer, the left/right bleeding follows the wav
file, so it seems that the problem is in the capture process somehow.
When I install Windows XP onto the same machine, the problem disappears, so I can rule out hardware errors.
The application I'm working on relies on being able to reliably capture the right and left channels of audio independently. Since the problem can be seen using the standard arecord/aplay tools, though, I don't think
it's my code.
I've tried all the possible combinations inside alsamixer, and I don't think there's anything I've messed up there.
To investigate where the problem exists, try to use "hw" PCM first without alsa-lib plugins. If the problem still remains, it's in the driver (that I don't expect since your codec dump looks sane to me).
Thanks for the response.
I assume you want me to record something with arecord --device=hw:0,0 ?
Yes.
The problem still exists with that command line. Where do I need to look next -- the kernel driver? Any theories as to what might be happening here? Has anyone seen something similar before, perhaps on other hardware?
No, I've never heard such a (software) problem on other hardwares. What about the recording from mic input? (You have "Mic Boost" there, too). Takashi
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