Re: [alsa-devel] Fast Track Ultra 8r...
Am 10.10.2013 19:41 schrieb "Petri Järvisalo" petri.jarvisalo@gmail.com:
When plugging in the device at other OS, the internal routing for inputs
is disabled and software routes straight 1 = 1 to 8 = 8, like this, and there is no effects applied.
Those defaults are the worst I can think of for *my* use case. That's why I haven't implemented them. I do fully appreciate that those would be sane defaults for many people. I wouldn't mind anyone implementing them in Alsa. It's just, well, I won't ;-)
When I started working on the FTU mixer support I didn't think about the defaults at all. The default we have right now are the ones you get without explicitly specifying any.
But in fact, now I completely fell in love with these insane defaults: They give me an instant alert that I haven't restored my personal 'right' settings! That's of extreme value for my purposes as I use the device mainly on live occasions and the 'wrong' settings certainly cannot go unnoticed in the soundcheck.
So again, anybody interested is invited to implement new defaults for the FTU. I won' t object any choice, how could I? But I won't do it myself since I'm personally very happy with the current state.
Regards, Felix
2013/10/10 Felix Homann linuxaudio@showlabor.de
Am 10.10.2013 19:41 schrieb "Petri Järvisalo" petri.jarvisalo@gmail.com:
When plugging in the device at other OS, the internal routing for inputs
is disabled and software routes straight 1 = 1 to 8 = 8, like this, and there is no effects applied.
Those defaults are the worst I can think of for *my* use case. That's why I haven't implemented them. I do fully appreciate that those would be sane defaults for many people. I wouldn't mind anyone implementing them in Alsa. It's just, well, I won't ;-)
When I started working on the FTU mixer support I didn't think about the defaults at all. The default we have right now are the ones you get without explicitly specifying any.
But in fact, now I completely fell in love with these insane defaults: They give me an instant alert that I haven't restored my personal 'right' settings! That's of extreme value for my purposes as I use the device mainly on live occasions and the 'wrong' settings certainly cannot go unnoticed in the soundcheck.
So again, anybody interested is invited to implement new defaults for the FTU. I won' t object any choice, how could I? But I won't do it myself since I'm personally very happy with the current state.
Regards, Felix
So,
the only option left for me is to ask if some kind person would patch and change the default settings, i think it would serve the majority of users and ease the usability :)
Thanks, Petri
I agree with petri but I'm already on the record as saying my preference would be
softreturns -> outputs everything else muted no effects.
Petri the scripts are probably something I wrote (if it's a couple of nested for loops of shell)
The bigger problem imho is that snd-usb-audio doesn't preserve alsa volumes and I still don't understand the reasoning for this.
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Petri Järvisalo petri.jarvisalo@gmail.comwrote:
2013/10/10 Felix Homann linuxaudio@showlabor.de
Am 10.10.2013 19:41 schrieb "Petri Järvisalo" <petri.jarvisalo@gmail.com :
When plugging in the device at other OS, the internal routing for
inputs
is disabled and software routes straight 1 = 1 to 8 = 8, like this, and there is no effects applied.
Those defaults are the worst I can think of for *my* use case. That's why I haven't implemented them. I do fully appreciate that those would be
sane
defaults for many people. I wouldn't mind anyone implementing them in
Alsa.
It's just, well, I won't ;-)
When I started working on the FTU mixer support I didn't think about the defaults at all. The default we have right now are the ones you get
without
explicitly specifying any.
But in fact, now I completely fell in love with these insane defaults: They give me an instant alert that I haven't restored my personal 'right' settings! That's of extreme value for my purposes as I use the device mainly on live occasions and the 'wrong' settings certainly cannot go unnoticed in the soundcheck.
So again, anybody interested is invited to implement new defaults for the FTU. I won' t object any choice, how could I? But I won't do it myself since I'm personally very happy with the current state.
Regards, Felix
So,
the only option left for me is to ask if some kind person would patch and change the default settings, i think it would serve the majority of users and ease the usability :)
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Am 11.10.2013 01:27 schrieb "Grant Diffey" gdiffey@gmail.com:
The bigger problem imho is that snd-usb-audio doesn't preserve alsa
volumes and I still don't understand the reasoning for this.
My understanding is that storing and restoring ALSA volumes is done by alsactl fired by some udev rule or init script in general. If you unplug or switch off your device it is too late to run alsactl on it so the usual magic cannot succeed. In contrast, when you switch off your computer with the FTU still plugged in and switched on the volumes will be preserved. At least on my machine.
Am 10.10.2013 23:55 schrieb "Petri Järvisalo" petri.jarvisalo@gmail.com:
So,
the only option left for me is to ask if some kind person would patch and
change the default settings, i think it would serve the majority of users and ease the usability :)
Actually there are two more options:
1. Do it yourself! I really mean it: I had never done anything kernel related before, I didn't know how all this was working. I dived into the code because I needed the device to be working and seemingly there wasn't anyone else who wanted to work on the mixer :-) 2. As mentioned in my first reply, I would consider implementing a 'all muted' default if we found a consensus on it. I couldn't promise to do it soon though because of too much work with much higher priority. Grant, Aurelien, what do you think? It's probably at least better than the current situation.
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