[alsa-devel] User-space OSS emulation?
Can someone tell me more about "user-space OSS emulation"? I've read a few references to it in the mailing list archives, but a google search doesn't turn up anything useful.
On Nov 8, 2007 5:33 PM, Timur Tabi timur@freescale.com wrote:
Can someone tell me more about "user-space OSS emulation"? I've read a few references to it in the mailing list archives, but a google search doesn't turn up anything useful.
Basically it uses LD_PRELOAD to redirect OSS API calls (ioctls) to the alsa-lib equivalents. man aoss for details on usage.
Lee
Lee Revell wrote:
Basically it uses LD_PRELOAD to redirect OSS API calls (ioctls) to the alsa-lib equivalents. man aoss for details on usage.
I don't have it installed, that's why I'm asking about it. I can't seem to find the "aoss" web page, if there is one.
On Nov 8, 2007 5:38 PM, Timur Tabi timur@freescale.com wrote:
Lee Revell wrote:
Basically it uses LD_PRELOAD to redirect OSS API calls (ioctls) to the alsa-lib equivalents. man aoss for details on usage.
I don't have it installed, that's why I'm asking about it. I can't seem to find the "aoss" web page, if there is one.
Google "aoss alsa".
Lee
Lee Revell wrote:
On Nov 8, 2007 5:38 PM, Timur Tabi timur@freescale.com wrote:
Lee Revell wrote:
Basically it uses LD_PRELOAD to redirect OSS API calls (ioctls) to the alsa-lib equivalents. man aoss for details on usage.
I don't have it installed, that's why I'm asking about it. I can't seem to find the "aoss" web page, if there is one.
Google "aoss alsa".
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Hi,
The Linspire/Freespire team has been working on a different approach to this problem. They have a kernel module called "forward-oss" (and accompanying userspace daemon, "forward") which is, in certain ways, less hackish (and in certain ways _more_ hackish ;)) than aoss.
1. It doesn't use LD_PRELOAD. Many apps are incompatible with LD_PRELOAD if, for example, they already use it themselves, or they're setuid. 2. It's an alternative to aoss. If aoss doesn't work with an app, forward-oss may be worth a try. 3. forward-oss was written in 2006/early-to-mid 07. But last I tried, forward-oss still compiles on very recent Debian kernels - 2.6.22 and 2.6.23 - including non-Linspire kernels. No idea about vanilla or other distro-specific kernels. 4. It exposes a "real" /dev/dsp device for each ALSA soundcard, e.g. /dev/dsp1, /dev/dsp2, etc. No syscall interception is necessary. 5. The userspace daemon calls back into your alsa-lib stack, using the plugin layer for mixing or multiple channels or whatever you want. So in that sense, it has the same advantage as aoss, while both forward-oss and aoss differ from the standard ALSA in-kernel OSS emulation in this regard (snd_pcm_oss). snd_pcm_oss interfaces directly with the kernel stack, rather than looping back through the user's plugin chain (AFAIK, this is impossible without using a daemon like Linspire has done). So, if you have no hardware mixing, snd_pcm_oss either hogs the soundcard or fails to function while other apps are using ALSA. 6. For compatibility's sake with as many different environments as possible, it seems forward-oss has an advantage over LD_PRELOAD methods (i.e. it doesn't need to use LD_PRELOAD at all). 7. It's asking a lot more of the user to have a working kernel build environment, and proper privileges, to install forward-oss. So installation is less flexible than aoss, in a sense. 8. More stuff in the kernel = higher probability of conflicts/panics/oopses... you know the drill.
Also, if you've ever used any sound servers, almost all of them come with their own ugly duckling LD_PRELOAD hack: padsp for PulseAudio, esddsp (?) for eSounD, artsdsp for aRts, etc. All of them basically work with about 20% of all OSS applications ;) YMMV.
Just thought I'd share some other ways I've found to bridge the OSS<->ALSA gap, besides aoss and snd_pcm_oss...
-Sean
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Lee Revell
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Sean McNamara
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Timur Tabi