[alsa-devel] This is a nudge. This is only a nudge. In the event of actual emergency...
There is a user community of significant size hanging on your next point release. Users of recent ThinkPads, especially X61 and T61s. ALSA 1.0.14 doesn't cut it for the AD1984 Intel sound card on these machines; your head revision, however, does.
This is a nudge to your release manager. Please ship a point release soon so .deb and RPM packages con become available quickly. Owners of many laptops, including my X61, will thank you.
On 08/29/2007 11:54 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
There is a user community of significant size hanging on your next point release. Users of recent ThinkPads, especially X61 and T61s. ALSA 1.0.14 doesn't cut it for the AD1984 Intel sound card on these machines; your head revision, however, does.
This is a nudge to your release manager. Please ship a point release soon so .deb and RPM packages con become available quickly. Owners of many laptops, including my X61, will thank you.
This need you have to always hang personal issues off of large communities just has to be indicative of some serious inferiority complex issues...
But yes, releases have been slow in the coming. Do distributions regularly ship ALSA -rc releases by the way? There hasn't even been a 1.0.15-rc1 yet, so if not, they'd be waiting for quite a bit yet as ALSA goes through the 15-rc stage.
Jaroslav -- given that there's a somewhat serious need, how about making 1.0.15 a fast(er) point release? That is, 1.0.15-rc1 right about now and if nothing serious turns up in two weeks time or so, 1.0.15? Can't say I'm aware of how widely/quickly ALSA -rc's are being tested, so don't know if two weeks are enough...
Rene.
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Rene Herman wrote:
On 08/29/2007 11:54 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
Jaroslav -- given that there's a somewhat serious need, how about making 1.0.15 a fast(er) point release? That is, 1.0.15-rc1 right about now and if nothing serious turns up in two weeks time or so, 1.0.15? Can't say I'm aware of how widely/quickly ALSA -rc's are being tested, so don't know if two weeks are enough...
Yes, I see this demand. I'll release 1.0.15rc1 today and I'm going to have only few rc versions for 1.0.15 to have final 1.0.15 package in two weeks.
Jaroslav
----- Jaroslav Kysela perex@suse.cz Linux Kernel Sound Maintainer ALSA Project, SUSE Labs
On 08/30/2007 10:18 AM, Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Rene Herman wrote:
On 08/29/2007 11:54 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
Jaroslav -- given that there's a somewhat serious need, how about making 1.0.15 a fast(er) point release? That is, 1.0.15-rc1 right about now and if nothing serious turns up in two weeks time or so, 1.0.15? Can't say I'm aware of how widely/quickly ALSA -rc's are being tested, so don't know if two weeks are enough...
Yes, I see this demand. I'll release 1.0.15rc1 today and I'm going to have only few rc versions for 1.0.15 to have final 1.0.15 package in two weeks.
Great, thanks. I just pulled the HG driver/kernel repos and I believe in isa/ everything's looking okay. Will test further.
Rene.
At Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:18:53 +0200 (CEST), Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Rene Herman wrote:
On 08/29/2007 11:54 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
Jaroslav -- given that there's a somewhat serious need, how about making 1.0.15 a fast(er) point release? That is, 1.0.15-rc1 right about now and if nothing serious turns up in two weeks time or so, 1.0.15? Can't say I'm aware of how widely/quickly ALSA -rc's are being tested, so don't know if two weeks are enough...
Yes, I see this demand. I'll release 1.0.15rc1 today and I'm going to have only few rc versions for 1.0.15 to have final 1.0.15 package in two weeks.
Sounds good. Funnily, it's exactly the same timing as I requested 1.0.15-rc1 release yesterday :)
thanks,
Takashi
Jaroslav Kysela perex@suse.cz:
Yes, I see this demand. I'll release 1.0.15rc1 today and I'm going to have only few rc versions for 1.0.15 to have final 1.0.15 package in two weeks.
Thanks for the cooperation. I'll post notices of the upcoming release in a couple of appropriate fora, including ThinkWiki and the Ubuntu forum thread on the X61.
Note for anybody who was worried, like me, that Lenovo might start cutting engineering corners on the ThinkPads and wreck the brand: it doesn't appear to be happening. My brand spankin' new X61 seems to be just as well constructed as the IBM ThinkPads were.
Now I need to go through the same dance with Intel about its wireless drivers...
Is this new release going to include support for Acer 9810 hda-intel Realtek ALC883 HiDefinition Audio?
*** here is the output from my system, sound only works thru the spdif headphone jack not the speakers.
Also see http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=565080&highligh... a post i made and nobody could answer it.
Thanks for your help and time. Regards.
Califalcon
Here is the output of lspci -s 0:1b -vn 00:1b.0 0403: 8086:27d8 (rev 02) Subsystem: 1025:006c Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23 Memory at d2300000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [70] Express Unknown type IRQ 0
And output of cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | head Codec: Realtek ALC883 Address: 0 Vendor Id: 0x10ec0883 Subsystem Id: 0x1025162d Revision Id: 0x100002 Default PCM: rates 0x560, bits 0x0e, types 0x1 Default Amp-In caps: N/A Default Amp-Out caps: N/A Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x11: Stereo PCM: rates 0x560, bits 0x0e, types 0x1
Full card0/codec#0 Codec: Realtek ALC883 Address: 0 Vendor Id: 0x10ec0883 Subsystem Id: 0x1025162d Revision Id: 0x100002 Default PCM: rates 0x560, bits 0x0e, types 0x1 Default Amp-In caps: N/A Default Amp-Out caps: N/A Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x11: Stereo PCM: rates 0x560, bits 0x0e, types 0x1 Node 0x03 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x11: Stereo PCM: rates 0x560, bits 0x0e, types 0x1 Node 0x04 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x11: Stereo PCM: rates 0x560, bits 0x0e, types 0x1 Node 0x05 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x11: Stereo PCM: rates 0x560, bits 0x0e, types 0x1 Node 0x06 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x211: Stereo Digital PCM: rates 0x560, bits 0x1e, types 0x1 Node 0x07 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono Node 0x08 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x10011b: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x08, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x98 0x98] PCM: rates 0x160, bits 0x06, types 0x1 Connection: 1 0x23 Node 0x09 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x10011b: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x08, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x18 0x18] PCM: rates 0x160, bits 0x06, types 0x1 Connection: 1 0x22 Node 0x0a [Audio Input] wcaps 0x100391: Stereo Digital PCM: rates 0x560, bits 0x1e, types 0x1 Connection: 1 0x1f Node 0x0b [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x17, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x98 0x98] [0x90 0x90] [0x1f 0x1f] [0x00 0x00] [0x1f 0x1f] [0x1f 0x1f] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] Connection: 10 0x18 0x19 0x1a 0x1b 0x1c 0x1d 0x14 0x15 0x16 0x17 Node 0x0c [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x1f, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x1f 0x1f] Connection: 2 0x02 0x0b Node 0x0d [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x1f, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x18 0x18] Connection: 2 0x03 0x0b Node 0x0e [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x1f, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x18 0x18] Connection: 2 0x04 0x0b Node 0x0f [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x1f, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x18 0x18] Connection: 2 0x05 0x0b Node 0x10 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono Node 0x11 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono Node 0x12 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono Node 0x13 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono Node 0x14 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Pincap 0x083e: IN OUT HP Detect Pin Default 0x01214110: [Jack] HP Out at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Green Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Connection: 5 0x0c* 0x0d 0x0e 0x0f 0x26 Node 0x15 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Pincap 0x083e: IN OUT HP Detect Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Black Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Connection: 5 0x0c 0x0d* 0x0e 0x0f 0x26 Node 0x16 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Pincap 0x083e: IN OUT HP Detect Pin Default 0x99130120: [Fixed] Speaker at Int ATAPI Conn = ATAPI, Color = Unknown Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Connection: 5 0x0c 0x0d 0x0e* 0x0f 0x26 Node 0x17 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Pincap 0x083e: IN OUT HP Detect Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Black Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Connection: 5 0x0c 0x0d 0x0e 0x0f* 0x26 Node 0x18 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x80 0x80] Pincap 0x08173e: IN OUT HP Detect Pin Default 0x01a19940: [Jack] Mic at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Pink Pin-ctls: 0x24: IN Connection: 5 0x0c* 0x0d 0x0e 0x0f 0x26 Node 0x19 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x80 0x80] Pincap 0x08173e: IN OUT HP Detect Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Black Pin-ctls: 0x24: IN Connection: 5 0x0c* 0x0d 0x0e 0x0f 0x26 Node 0x1a [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x80 0x80] Pincap 0x08173e: IN OUT HP Detect Pin Default 0x0181314f: [Jack] Line In at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Blue Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN Connection: 5 0x0c* 0x0d 0x0e 0x0f 0x26 Node 0x1b [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Pincap 0x08173e: IN OUT HP Detect Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Black Pin-ctls: 0xc0: OUT HP Connection: 5 0x0c* 0x0d 0x0e 0x0f 0x26 Node 0x1c [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400001: Stereo Pincap 0x0820: IN Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Black Pin-ctls: 0x00: Node 0x1d [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400000: Mono Pincap 0x0820: IN Pin Default 0x4016162d: [N/A] Speaker at Ext N/A Conn = Digital, Color = Black Pin-ctls: 0x00: Node 0x1e [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400300: Mono Digital Pincap 0x0810: OUT Pin Default 0x01454130: [Jack] SPDIF Out at Ext Rear Conn = Optical, Color = Green Pin-ctls: 0x00: Connection: 1 0x06 Node 0x1f [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400200: Mono Digital Pincap 0x0820: IN Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Black Pin-ctls: 0x00: Node 0x20 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00040: Mono Node 0x21 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono Node 0x22 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x80 0x80] [0x00 0x00] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] Amp-Out caps: N/A Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Connection: 11 0x18 0x19 0x1a 0x1b 0x1c 0x1d 0x14 0x15 0x16 0x17 0x0b Node 0x23 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] [0x80 0x80] [0x00 0x00] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] Amp-Out caps: N/A Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Connection: 11 0x18 0x19 0x1a 0x1b 0x1c 0x1d 0x14 0x15 0x16 0x17 0x0b Node 0x24 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono Node 0x25 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x11: Stereo PCM: rates 0x560, bits 0x0e, types 0x1 Node 0x26 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x80 0x80] Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x1f, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Connection: 2 0x25 0x0b
Full Card0/Codec#1 -- dunno if this matter Codec: Generic 14f1 ID 2bfa Address: 1 Vendor Id: 0x14f12bfa Subsystem Id: 0x1025006c Revision Id: 0x90000
I also have all these directories under /proc/asound/card0/ codec#0 codec#1 id oss_mixer pcm0c/ pcm0p/ pcm1c/
pcm0c/info card: 0 device: 0 subdevice: 0 stream: CAPTURE id: ALC883 Analog name: ALC883 Analog subname: subdevice #0 class: 0 subclass: 0 subdevices_count: 2 subdevices_avail: 2
/pcm0p/info card: 0 device: 0 subdevice: 0 stream: PLAYBACK id: ALC883 Analog name: ALC883 Analog subname: subdevice #0 class: 0 subclass: 0 subdevices_count: 1 subdevices_avail: 1
/pcm1c/info card: 0 device: 1 subdevice: 0 stream: CAPTURE id: ALC883 Analog name: ALC883 Analog subname: subdevice #0 class: 0 subclass: 0 subdevices_count: 2 subdevices_avail: 2
On 8/30/07, Eric S. Raymond esr@thyrsus.com wrote:
Jaroslav Kysela perex@suse.cz:
Yes, I see this demand. I'll release 1.0.15rc1 today and I'm going to
have
only few rc versions for 1.0.15 to have final 1.0.15 package in two
weeks.
Thanks for the cooperation. I'll post notices of the upcoming release in a couple of appropriate fora, including ThinkWiki and the Ubuntu forum thread on the X61.
Note for anybody who was worried, like me, that Lenovo might start cutting engineering corners on the ThinkPads and wreck the brand: it doesn't appear to be happening. My brand spankin' new X61 seems to be just as well constructed as the IBM ThinkPads were.
Now I need to go through the same dance with Intel about its wireless drivers... -- <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a> _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
At Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:29:05 -0400, Adriano Grassi wrote:
Is this new release going to include support for Acer 9810 hda-intel Realtek ALC883 HiDefinition Audio?
Yes, it is. But before asking, you could have tested HG version, and saved your time :) The support of this laptop has been already there since weeks.
FYI, the daily snapshot tarball is available, too:
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/alsa/snapshot/driver/
Takashi
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