[alsa-devel] [PATCH] Revert "ASoC: core: mark SND_SOC_BYTES_EXT as deprecated"
SND_SOC_BYTES_TLV brings confusions to user land because it doesn't follow to a protocol of ctl and tlv operation. At least, this macro and related kernel APIs include two misunderstandings: - 'struct snd_ctl_elem_info.count' can also represent the length of TLV packet paylaod, snd_soc_bytes_info_ext() performs in this way. - 'struct snd_ctl_tlv.tlv' can include arbitrary data regardless of TLV packet structure, snd_soc_bytes_tlv_callback() performs in this way.
In a policy of kernel land development, it's quite worse to break protocols for applications. Therefore, developers are discouraged to use these kernel APIs.
In the first place, SND_SOC_BYTES_TLV was added to satisfy a request of developers who need to add control elements which transfer data larger than the size which 'struct snd_ctl_elem_value' can represent; e.g. over 512 bytes. However, as long as the size is less than the size; e.g. 512 bytes, SND_SOC_BYTES_EXT is still available. Although there is actually the limitation of maximum data size, it's better to use this API for stable application interface till better alternative ways are implemented in future.
For these reasons, this commit reverts the previous commit which lead developers to the worse behaviour.
Signed-off-by: Takashi Sakamoto o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp --- include/sound/soc.h | 3 --- 1 file changed, 3 deletions(-)
diff --git a/include/sound/soc.h b/include/sound/soc.h index 6144882..18f7d21 100644 --- a/include/sound/soc.h +++ b/include/sound/soc.h @@ -311,9 +311,6 @@ {.base = xbase, .num_regs = xregs, \ .mask = xmask }) }
-/* - * SND_SOC_BYTES_EXT is deprecated, please USE SND_SOC_BYTES_TLV instead - */ #define SND_SOC_BYTES_EXT(xname, xcount, xhandler_get, xhandler_put) \ { .iface = SNDRV_CTL_ELEM_IFACE_MIXER, .name = xname, \ .info = snd_soc_bytes_info_ext, \
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:45:49PM +0900, Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
SND_SOC_BYTES_TLV brings confusions to user land because it doesn't follow to a protocol of ctl and tlv operation. At least, this macro and related kernel APIs include two misunderstandings:
- 'struct snd_ctl_elem_info.count' can also represent the length of TLV packet paylaod, snd_soc_bytes_info_ext() performs in this way.
- 'struct snd_ctl_tlv.tlv' can include arbitrary data regardless of TLV packet structure, snd_soc_bytes_tlv_callback() performs in this way.
In a policy of kernel land development, it's quite worse to break protocols for applications. Therefore, developers are discouraged to use these kernel APIs.
In the first place, SND_SOC_BYTES_TLV was added to satisfy a request of developers who need to add control elements which transfer data larger than the size which 'struct snd_ctl_elem_value' can represent; e.g. over 512 bytes. However, as long as the size is less than the size; e.g. 512 bytes, SND_SOC_BYTES_EXT is still available. Although there is actually the limitation of maximum data size, it's better to use this API for stable application interface till better alternative ways are implemented in future.
For these reasons, this commit reverts the previous commit which lead developers to the worse behaviour.
Signed-off-by: Takashi Sakamoto o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp
Acked-by: Charles Keepax ckeepax@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com
Yeah would be better to use normal controls for <512 bytes, so this looks good to me.
Although you might want to resend using Mark's kernel.org address as I imagine he would be the one to apply the change and that is the address he normally uses for patches.
Thanks, Charles
On Sep 15 2016 23:21, Charles Keepax wrote:
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:45:49PM +0900, Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
SND_SOC_BYTES_TLV brings confusions to user land because it doesn't follow to a protocol of ctl and tlv operation. At least, this macro and related kernel APIs include two misunderstandings:
- 'struct snd_ctl_elem_info.count' can also represent the length of TLV packet paylaod, snd_soc_bytes_info_ext() performs in this way.
- 'struct snd_ctl_tlv.tlv' can include arbitrary data regardless of TLV packet structure, snd_soc_bytes_tlv_callback() performs in this way.
In a policy of kernel land development, it's quite worse to break protocols for applications. Therefore, developers are discouraged to use these kernel APIs.
In the first place, SND_SOC_BYTES_TLV was added to satisfy a request of developers who need to add control elements which transfer data larger than the size which 'struct snd_ctl_elem_value' can represent; e.g. over 512 bytes. However, as long as the size is less than the size; e.g. 512 bytes, SND_SOC_BYTES_EXT is still available. Although there is actually the limitation of maximum data size, it's better to use this API for stable application interface till better alternative ways are implemented in future.
For these reasons, this commit reverts the previous commit which lead developers to the worse behaviour.
Signed-off-by: Takashi Sakamoto o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp
Acked-by: Charles Keepax ckeepax@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com
Yeah would be better to use normal controls for <512 bytes, so this looks good to me.
Although you might want to resend using Mark's kernel.org address as I imagine he would be the one to apply the change and that is the address he normally uses for patches.
Oh, he uses the domain instead of linaro.org. I missed it.
Now I add him to CC list.
Thanks
Takashi Sakamoto
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 11:41:43PM +0900, Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
On Sep 15 2016 23:21, Charles Keepax wrote:
Although you might want to resend using Mark's kernel.org address as I imagine he would be the one to apply the change and that is the address he normally uses for patches.
Oh, he uses the domain instead of linaro.org. I missed it.
Now I add him to CC list.
As documented in SubmittingPatches please send patches to the maintainers for the code you would like to change. The normal kernel workflow is that people apply patches from their inboxes, if they aren't copied they are likely to not see the patch at all and it is much more difficult to apply patches.
On Sep 15 2016 23:54, Mark Brown wrote:
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 11:41:43PM +0900, Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
On Sep 15 2016 23:21, Charles Keepax wrote:
Although you might want to resend using Mark's kernel.org address as I imagine he would be the one to apply the change and that is the address he normally uses for patches.
Oh, he uses the domain instead of linaro.org. I missed it.
Now I add him to CC list.
As documented in SubmittingPatches please send patches to the maintainers for the code you would like to change. The normal kernel workflow is that people apply patches from their inboxes, if they aren't copied they are likely to not see the patch at all and it is much more difficult to apply patches.
I see. I'll post this to below addresses.
$ ./scripts/get_maintainer.pl /tmp/patch/0001-Revert-ASoC-core-mark-SND_SOC_BYTES_EXT-as-deprecate.patch fatal: /tmp/patch/0001-Revert-ASoC-core-mark-SND_SOC_BYTES_EXT-as-deprecate.patch: '/tmp/patch/0001-Revert-ASoC-core-mark-SND_SOC_BYTES_EXT-as-deprecate.patch' is outside repository Liam Girdwood lgirdwood@gmail.com (supporter:SOUND - SOC LAYER / DYNAMIC AUDIO POWER MANAGEM...) Mark Brown broonie@kernel.org (supporter:SOUND - SOC LAYER / DYNAMIC AUDIO POWER MANAGEM...) Jaroslav Kysela perex@perex.cz (maintainer:SOUND) Takashi Iwai tiwai@suse.com (maintainer:SOUND) alsa-devel@alsa-project.org (moderated list:SOUND - SOC LAYER / DYNAMIC AUDIO POWER MANAGEM...) linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (open list)
Takashi Sakamoto
On Sep 16 2016 07:29, Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
On Sep 15 2016 23:54, Mark Brown wrote:
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 11:41:43PM +0900, Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
On Sep 15 2016 23:21, Charles Keepax wrote:
Although you might want to resend using Mark's kernel.org address as I imagine he would be the one to apply the change and that is the address he normally uses for patches.
Oh, he uses the domain instead of linaro.org. I missed it.
Now I add him to CC list.
As documented in SubmittingPatches please send patches to the maintainers for the code you would like to change. The normal kernel workflow is that people apply patches from their inboxes, if they aren't copied they are likely to not see the patch at all and it is much more difficult to apply patches.
I see. I'll post this to below addresses.
$ ./scripts/get_maintainer.pl /tmp/patch/0001-Revert-ASoC-core-mark-SND_SOC_BYTES_EXT-as-deprecate.patch fatal: /tmp/patch/0001-Revert-ASoC-core-mark-SND_SOC_BYTES_EXT-as-deprecate.patch: '/tmp/patch/0001-Revert-ASoC-core-mark-SND_SOC_BYTES_EXT-as-deprecate.patch' is outside repository Liam Girdwood lgirdwood@gmail.com (supporter:SOUND - SOC LAYER / DYNAMIC AUDIO POWER MANAGEM...) Mark Brown broonie@kernel.org (supporter:SOUND - SOC LAYER / DYNAMIC AUDIO POWER MANAGEM...) Jaroslav Kysela perex@perex.cz (maintainer:SOUND) Takashi Iwai tiwai@suse.com (maintainer:SOUND) alsa-devel@alsa-project.org (moderated list:SOUND - SOC LAYER / DYNAMIC AUDIO POWER MANAGEM...) linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (open list)
I changed my mind. I just added you to CC list of new patch, then sent it. Please apply it your tree after reviewing. I don't like to be involved to the yeast, and dull work.
Regards
Takashi Sakamoto
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