[alsa-devel] line in recording w/ alsa - suggestions for a snd card?
hi folks, i ve given up on that problems w/ recording because it leads to LQ recordings in the best case. so does anybody have a suggestion for a sound card PCI-internal that works w/ ALSA and records HQ from line-in that can be used for digitalizing? frankly, as long as it would work money isnt important but on the other hand it doesnt need to be 192 kHz one for >100 eur. so as long as the card does record HQ in 44/48 kHz would be perfectly OK and the cheaper, the better.
thanks.
Find an inexpensive card with an ICE1712. The chip is now made by VIA, but it has excellent analog and digital performance and good ALSA support.
On Apr 1, 2010 8:19 AM, "Lars Schotte" lars.schotte@schotteweb.de wrote:
hi folks, i ve given up on that problems w/ recording because it leads to LQ recordings in the best case. so does anybody have a suggestion for a sound card PCI-internal that works w/ ALSA and records HQ from line-in that can be used for digitalizing? frankly, as long as it would work money isnt important but on the other hand it doesnt need to be 192 kHz one for >100 eur. so as long as the card does record HQ in 44/48 kHz would be perfectly OK and the cheaper, the better.
thanks.
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is ICE 1723 OK too?
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:23:54 -0600 Alex Austin circuitsoft.alex@gmail.com wrote:
Find an inexpensive card with an ICE1712. The chip is now made by VIA, but it has excellent analog and digital performance and good ALSA support.
On Apr 1, 2010 8:19 AM, "Lars Schotte" lars.schotte@schotteweb.de wrote:
hi folks, i ve given up on that problems w/ recording because it leads to LQ recordings in the best case. so does anybody have a suggestion for a sound card PCI-internal that works w/ ALSA and records HQ from line-in that can be used for digitalizing? frankly, as long as it would work money isnt important but on the other hand it doesnt need to be 192 kHz one for >100 eur. so as long as the card does record HQ in 44/48 kHz would be perfectly OK and the cheaper, the better.
thanks.
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Lars Schotte wrote:
does anybody have a suggestion for a sound card PCI-internal that works w/ ALSA and records HQ from line-in that can be used for digitalizing?
There aren't that many PCI chipsets. The CMI8738/8768/8770 chips have the DACs and ADCs integrated and aren't very good (although the 68/70 are noticeably better). The ICE1712/1724, CA0106, X-Fi and CMI8788 chips are purely digital and must be combined with separate DAC/ADC chips, which usually are quite good.
The X-Fi is not supported very well. The CA0106 is supported, and used on several cheap Sound Blaster cards, e.g. the SB 5.1 VX. The ICE1712/ ICE1724 chips are used in many models; see the .h files in http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-kernel.git;a=tree;f=sound/pci/ice1712;hb=HEAD. (The "ICE1723" is a low-end model, and I don't know if it's supported at all). The CMI8788 is used on the Asus Xonar cards; the D1/DX/D2/D2X/ST/ STX are supported; the DS is partially supported in the latest kernel.
Regards, Clemens
WOW, thanks for these suggestions and informations a lot, because that saved me really a lot of trouble.
so from that what you are telling me here I can get the SB 5.1 VX, like I wrote in the mail to you, and of course the much more expensive Asus Xonar would be no problem at all.
The ICE1712/1724, I cant get at all and CA0106, I dont know what it is.
so the question now is, which of these two - SB 5.1 VX or Asus Xonar. I have a debian stable (lenny) w/ 2.6.26 old kernel and I would prefer if the card were already supported by that kernel, so I dont need to make any changes to the system any more.
thanks again Clemens, I appreciate your time and awaiting the definitive suggestion now, so we can solve the problem here.
(I maybe get also some card for me according to these inf. Now I am doing it for a friend who wants to digitalize a lot of his audio, so it would be nice to surprise him positively by linux and ALSA and everything around OSSoft.)
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:47:58 +0200 Clemens Ladisch clemens@ladisch.de wrote:
Lars Schotte wrote:
does anybody have a suggestion for a sound card PCI-internal that works w/ ALSA and records HQ from line-in that can be used for digitalizing?
There aren't that many PCI chipsets. The CMI8738/8768/8770 chips have the DACs and ADCs integrated and aren't very good (although the 68/70 are noticeably better). The ICE1712/1724, CA0106, X-Fi and CMI8788 chips are purely digital and must be combined with separate DAC/ADC chips, which usually are quite good.
The X-Fi is not supported very well. The CA0106 is supported, and used on several cheap Sound Blaster cards, e.g. the SB 5.1 VX. The ICE1712/ ICE1724 chips are used in many models; see the .h files in http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-kernel.git;a=tree;f=sound/pci/ice1712;hb=HEAD. (The "ICE1723" is a low-end model, and I don't know if it's supported at all). The CMI8788 is used on the Asus Xonar cards; the D1/DX/D2/D2X/ST/ STX are supported; the DS is partially supported in the latest kernel.
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Lars Schotte wrote:
CA0106 is supported, but I looked at the website and there is: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Creative_Labs CA0106 Details [PCI] Digital/Analog input does not work yet. Needs more development work.
so ... that seems like line in doesnt work yet, but on the unofficial http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Ca0106 is " Capture from MIC an LINE IN input. " so looks like that already works, but maybe recently.
The opensrc.org entry is newer.
However, the snd-ca0106 driver doesn't know the VX model; there are reports that playback on the VX does not work at all (white noise) unless the card was initialized by the Windows driver, then rebooted into Linux.
so the question now is, which of these two - SB 5.1 VX or Asus Xonar. I have a debian stable (lenny) w/ 2.6.26 old kernel and I would prefer if the card were already supported by that kernel, so I dont need to make any changes to the system any more.
The Xonar D1 has a not-buggy driver since 2.6.27. I don't know Debian, but it looks as if newer backported kernels are available.
HTH Clemens
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