Thanks a lot Takashi and Raymond.
I guess that means the fix from tom-ipp, that Raymond referred to, won't work. So what can I do to help you fix this. Do you want me to try and run something? I would be pleased to help out. When you say "the problem is somewhere else". Do you have an idea about where that could be?
Greetings Lars.
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Takashi Iwai tiwai@suse.de wrote:
At Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:12:21 +0800, Raymond Yau wrote:
AFAIK , alsa-lib use the driver name to find the name of corresponding conf file from /usr/share/alsa/cards/aliases.conf In your case , H-DSP.conf does not exist and there is no aliases in /usr/share/alsa/cards/aliases.conf
You have to ask Takashi or Jaroslav to fix this issue for your card
open("/usr/share/alsa/cards/aliases.conf", O_RDONLY) = 3
access("/usr/share/alsa/cards/H-DSP.conf", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/dev/snd/controlC1", O_RDONLY) = 3 close(3) = 0
write(2, "ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_fu"..., 42ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) ) = 42 write(2, "Unable to find definition 'cards"..., 58Unable to find definition 'cards.H-DSP.pcm.front.0:CARD=0') = 58 write(2, "\n", 1
Finally I can catch up pending posts...
For hdsp, there is no clear definition for "front" or any surround outputs due to the nature of the hardware. So, getting an error isn't a bug in this case.
PA should fall back into "hw" if all such pre-defined PCMs are not available. So, this is no critical situation for PA. The problem is somewhere else.
Takashi
2009/11/7 Lars Zobbe fedesensfar@gmail.com
It is a clean install. lars@lars-desktop:~$ lsb_release -a && uname -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 9.10 Release: 9.10 Codename: karmic Linux lars-desktop 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:05:01
UTC
2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
It didn't work with pulseaudio in any previos version (of ubuntu or any other distro I've tried) either. And the standard answer from people "out there" is "forget about pulse
it
doesn't work with the HDSP" f.x. this guy http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7578331&postcount=10 And that's why I contacted pulseaudio developers first when I found out
the
it was because snd_hdsp didn't load with the preferred udev but only
with
module-detect (se my first post). They said that I should inform Alsa developers as there seems to be a problem with the alsa driver.
I've attached the strace output.
Thanks. Lars.
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:53 AM, Raymond Yau <
superquad.vortex2@gmail.com>wrote:
Is it a clean install of Ubuntu 9.10 or upgrade from previous Ubuntu ?
you may need to find out why aplay -v -Dfront 32bit.wav fail ?
strace aplay -v -Dfront 32bit.wav
!!Linux Distribution
!!------------------
Ubuntu 9.10 \n \l DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 9.10"
!!Sound Servers on this system !!----------------------------
Pulseaudio: Installed - Yes (/usr/bin/pulseaudio)
Running - YesESound Daemon: Installed - Yes (/usr/bin/esd) Running - No
Jack: Installed - Yes (/usr/bin/jackd) Running - No
!!ALSA configuration files
!!------------------------
!!User specific config file (~/.asoundrc)
pcm.!default { type plug slave { pcm "jack" } }
pcm.jack { type jack playback_ports {
0 alsa_pcm:playback_1 1 alsa_pcm:playback_2 } capture_ports { 0 alsa_pcm:capture_1 1 alsa_pcm:capture_2 }}
ctl.mixer0 { type hw card 0 }
lars@lars-desktop:~$ aplay -v -Dfront:0 32bit.wav ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.H-DSP.pcm.front.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:3985:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file
or
directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2211:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM front:0 aplay: main:608: audio open error: No such file or directory
Did PA developer tell you not to load oss module ?
D: alsa-util.c: Checking for subset analog-mono (hw:%f) D: alsa-util.c: Trying hw:0 with SND_PCM_NO_AUTO_FORMAT ... D: alsa-util.c: Managed to open hw:0 D: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_hw_params_set_access() failed: Invalid
argument
D: alsa-util.c: Trying hw:0 without SND_PCM_NO_AUTO_FORMAT ... D: alsa-util.c: Managed to open hw:0 D: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_hw_params_set_access() failed: Invalid
argument
D: alsa-util.c: Trying plug:hw:0 with SND_PCM_NO_AUTO_FORMAT ... D: alsa-util.c: Managed to open plug:hw:0 D: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_hw_params_set_format(Signed 16 bit Little
Endian)
failed: Invalid argument D: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_hw_params_set_format(Signed 16 bit Big Endian) failed: Invalid argument D: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_hw_params_set_format(Float 32 bit Little
Endian)
failed: Invalid argument D: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_hw_params_set_format(Float 32 bit Big Endian) failed: Invalid argument D: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_hw_params_set_channels(1) failed: Invalid
argument
D: alsa-util.c: Trying plug:hw:0 without SND_PCM_NO_AUTO_FORMAT ... D: alsa-util.c: Managed to open plug:hw:0 D: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_hw_params_set_channels(1) failed: Invalid
argument
I: alsa-util.c: Failed to set hardware parameters on plug:hw:0:
Invalid
argument D: alsa-util.c: Trying hw:0 as last resort... D: alsa-util.c: Trying hw:0 with SND_PCM_NO_AUTO_FORMAT ... D: alsa-util.c: Managed to open hw:0 D: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_hw_params_set_access() failed: Invalid
argument
D: alsa-util.c: Trying hw:0 without SND_PCM_NO_AUTO_FORMAT ... D: alsa-util.c: Managed to open hw:0 D: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_hw_params_set_access() failed: Invalid
argument
D: alsa-util.c: Trying plug:hw:0 with SND_PCM_NO_AUTO_FORMAT ... D: alsa-util.c: Managed to open plug:hw:0 D: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_hw_params_set_format(Signed 16 bit Little
Endian)
failed: Invalid argument D: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_hw_params_set_format(Signed 16 bit Big Endian) failed: Invalid argument D: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_hw_params_set_format(Float 32 bit Little
Endian)
failed: Invalid argument D: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_hw_params_set_format(Float 32 bit Big Endian) failed: Invalid argument D: alsa-util.c: Maximum hw buffer size is 371 ms I: (alsa-lib)pcm_hw.c: SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_HW_PARAMS failed I: (alsa-lib)pcm_hw.c: SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_HW_PARAMS failed I: (alsa-lib)pcm_hw.c: SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_HW_PARAMS failed I: (alsa-lib)pcm_hw.c: SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_HW_PARAMS failed D: alsa-util.c: Set neither period nor buffer size. I: (alsa-lib)pcm_hw.c: SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_HW_PARAMS failed I: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_hw_params failed: Device or resource busy D: alsa-util.c: Trying plug:hw:0 without SND_PCM_NO_AUTO_FORMAT ... D: alsa-util.c: Managed to open plug:hw:0 D: alsa-util.c: Maximum hw buffer size is 371 ms I: (alsa-lib)pcm_hw.c: SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_HW_PARAMS failed I: (alsa-lib)pcm_hw.c: SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_HW_PARAMS failed I: (alsa-lib)pcm_hw.c: SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_HW_PARAMS failed I: (alsa-lib)pcm_hw.c: SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_HW_PARAMS failed D: alsa-util.c: Set neither period nor buffer size. I: (alsa-lib)pcm_hw.c: SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_HW_PARAMS failed I: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_hw_params failed: Device or resource busy I: alsa-util.c: Failed to set hardware parameters on plug:hw:0: Device
or
resource busy E: module.c: Failed to load module "module-alsa-source" (argument: "device_id=0"): initialization failed. W: module.c: module-oss is deprecated: Please use module-alsa-card
instead
of module-oss! D: oss-util.c: capabilities: MMAP REALTIME TRIGGER I: module-oss.c: Device opened in O_RDONLY mode. D: oss-util.c: Asking for 4 fragments of size 512 (requested 880) E: oss-util.c: SNDCTL_DSP_SETFMT: Device or resource busy E: module.c: Failed to load module "module-oss" (argument: "device=/dev/dsp"): initialization failed. W: module-detect.c: failed to detect any sound hardware.
2009/11/6 Lars Zobbe fedesensfar@gmail.com
Sorry. I didn't realise that it was a bash script. Here is the link to
my
alsa-info
http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=d3728557be71067e2ed0920747118ae7efff2829
Thanks again. Lars.
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Raymond Yau <
superquad.vortex2@gmail.com
wrote:
Please provide the full pulseaudio log and output of alsa-info.sh
http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/Troubleshooting
pulseaudio -k; pulseaudio -vvv
and
aplay -v -Dfront:0 32bit.wav
aplay -v -M -Dfront:0 32bit.wav
aplay -v -Dplughw:0 any.wav
aplay -v -M -Dplughw:0 any.wav
2009/11/4 Lars Zobbe fedesensfar@gmail.com
> Hi Raymond. > > I so sorry Raymond. But I'm not sure what to do with this info. Is there > something more I have to tell you? Is there anything I can do to
make
> pulseaudio able to detect via udev? Can I copy-paste that bit of
code
you > sent me somewhere? > Please tell me if there's more you need to know. > Greetings. > Lars. > > > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Raymond Yau < superquad.vortex2@gmail.com>wrote: > >> I guess route plugin used by RME96*.conf does not support mmap
when
there >> is >> channel conversion since minimum channels supported by hdsp is 14 >> >> >> static struct snd_pcm_hardware snd_hdsp_playback_subinfo = >> { >> .info = (SNDRV_PCM_INFO_MMAP | >> SNDRV_PCM_INFO_MMAP_VALID | >> SNDRV_PCM_INFO_NONINTERLEAVED | >> SNDRV_PCM_INFO_SYNC_START | >> SNDRV_PCM_INFO_DOUBLE), >> #ifdef SNDRV_BIG_ENDIAN >> .formats = SNDRV_PCM_FMTBIT_S32_BE, >> #else >> .formats = SNDRV_PCM_FMTBIT_S32_LE, >> #endif >> .rates = (SNDRV_PCM_RATE_32000 | >> SNDRV_PCM_RATE_44100 | >> SNDRV_PCM_RATE_48000 | >> SNDRV_PCM_RATE_64000 | >> SNDRV_PCM_RATE_88200 | >> SNDRV_PCM_RATE_96000), >> .rate_min = 32000, >> .rate_max = 96000, >> .channels_min = 14, >> .channels_max = HDSP_MAX_CHANNELS, >> .buffer_bytes_max = HDSP_CHANNEL_BUFFER_BYTES *
HDSP_MAX_CHANNELS,
>> .period_bytes_min = (64 * 4) * 10, >> .period_bytes_max = (8192 * 4) * HDSP_MAX_CHANNELS, >> .periods_min = 2, >> .periods_max = 2, >> .fifo_size = 0 >> }; >> >> 2009/11/2 Lars Zobbe fedesensfar@gmail.com >> >> > Hi. >> > >> > Talking to one of the pulseaudio developers (*Colin Guthrie*)
about
a >> > problem with pulseaudio loading modules and my sound card (RME
HDSP
>> 9632), >> > I >> > was adviced to inform you about the problem. >> > >> > I'm on ubuntu 9.10, 64bit, kernel 2.6.31 with an amd64 x2 3800+ >> processor. >> > >> > >> > Symptoms are: >> > Can only make pulseaudio load modules with the deprecated load-module >> > module-detect command, module-udev-detect doesn't detect
anything
(no >> sound >> > - only null sink output in padevchooser). >> > I get terrible stuttering. >> > I can remove pulseaudio and make things work, more or less. However, >> that >> > leaves me without software mixing and apps fighting for the
rights
to >> make >> > sound. And more inconveniences (fx. no volume-control). >> > I can play sound from audacity without stuttering by choosing
the
>> cardname >> > directly in output HDSP, not ALSA, not pulseaudio. >> > >> > >> > When trying to run alsa-info.sh I get a lot of "not found"
errors.
So >> > you'll >> > get some manual info (they might have moved som files around in ubuntu >> > 9.10). >> > >> > This is part of my syslog during a boot. (I did the formatting
to
bold). >> > >> > Nov 2 10:57:32 lars-desktop pulseaudio[1524]: module.c: module-detect >> is >> > deprecated: Please use module-udev-detect instead of
module-detect!
>> > Nov 2 10:57:37 lars-desktop pulseaudio[1524]: ratelimit.c: 27 events >> > suppressed >> > Nov 2 10:57:39 lars-desktop pulseaudio[1612]: module.c: module-detect >> is >> > deprecated: Please use module-udev-detect instead of
module-detect!
>> > Nov 2 10:57:44 lars-desktop pulseaudio[1612]: ratelimit.c: 23 events >> > suppressed >> > Nov 2 10:57:44 lars-desktop pulseaudio[1612]: alsa-sink.c:
ALSA
woke us >> up >> > to write new data to the device, but there was actually nothing
to
>> write! >> > Nov 2 10:57:44 lars-desktop pulseaudio[1612]: alsa-sink.c:
*Most
likely >> > this is a bug in the ALSA driver 'snd_hdsp'. Please report this issue to >> > the >> > ALSA developers.* >> > Nov 2 10:57:44 lars-desktop pulseaudio[1612]: alsa-sink.c: We
were
>> woken >> > up >> > with POLLOUT set -- however a subsequent snd_pcm_avail()
returned 0
or >> > another value < min_avail. >> > Nov 2 10:57:49 lars-desktop pulseaudio[1612]: ratelimit.c: 99 events >> > suppressed >> > >> > Later if I try to play audio I get terrible skipping or
stuttering
and >> my >> > syslog (in less than a minute) writes: >> > Nov 2 11:55:16 lars-desktop pulseaudio[1612]: ratelimit.c: 16 events >> > suppressed >> > Nov 2 11:55:21 lars-desktop pulseaudio[1612]: ratelimit.c: 34 events >> > suppressed >> > Nov 2 11:55:26 lars-desktop pulseaudio[1612]: ratelimit.c: 70 events >> > suppressed >> > Nov 2 11:55:31 lars-desktop pulseaudio[1612]: ratelimit.c: 29 events >> > suppressed >> > Nov 2 11:55:36 lars-desktop pulseaudio[1612]: ratelimit.c: 43 events >> > suppressed >> > Nov 2 11:55:41 lars-desktop pulseaudio[1612]: ratelimit.c: 161 events >> > suppressed >> > Nov 2 11:55:46 lars-desktop pulseaudio[1612]: ratelimit.c: 28 events >> > suppressed >> > Nov 2 11:55:51 lars-desktop pulseaudio[1612]: ratelimit.c: 18 events >> > suppressed >> > Nov 2 11:55:56 lars-desktop pulseaudio[1612]: ratelimit.c: 16 events >> > suppressed >> > >> > Here's the relevant part (concerning my sound card) of lspci
-vvv
>> > >> > 02:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Xilinx Corporation RME Hammerfall >> DSP >> > (rev 9a) >> > Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- >> > Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- >> > Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium
TAbort-
>> > <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx- >> > Latency: 255 >> > Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 19 >> > Region 0: Memory at fdff0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] >> > Kernel driver in use: RME Hammerfall DSP >> > Kernel modules: snd-hdsp >> > >> > And: >> > lars@lars-desktop:~$ aplay -l >> > **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** >> > card 0: DSP [Hammerfall DSP], device 0: RME Hammerfall HDSP
9632
[RME >> > Hammerfall HDSP 9632] >> > Subdevices: 1/1 >> > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 >> > >> > >> > lars@lars-desktop:~$ cat /proc/asound/version >> > Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.21. >> > Compiled on Oct 15 2009 for kernel 2.6.31-14-generic (SMP). >> > >> > lars@lars-desktop:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards >> > 0 [DSP ]: H-DSP - Hammerfall DSP >> > RME Hammerfall HDSP 9632 at 0xfdff0000,
irq 19
>> > >> > >> > lars@lars-desktop:~$ cat /proc/asound/modules >> > 0 snd_hdsp >> > >> > I don't have .asound.conf files. >> > >> > lars@lars-desktop:~$ hdsploader >> > hdsploader - firmware loader for RME Hammerfall DSP cards >> > Looking for HDSP + Multiface or Digiface cards : >> > Card 0 : RME Hammerfall HDSP 9632 at 0xfdff0000, irq 19 >> > >> > And of course. My computer makes no sound if I don't load the hdspmixer >> at >> > startup. I guess that's just normal for this card though. >> > >> > Please let me know, if you need more info. I really hope you
can
help >> out >> > here. And that this might help you to. >> > >> > Thanks for the great work you do. Greetings. >> > Lars Zobbe. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Alsa-devel mailing list >> > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org >> > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Alsa-devel mailing list >> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org >> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel >> > > _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
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