2010/2/17 Lennart Poettering mznyfn@0pointer.de
On Tue, 16.02.10 23:38, Mark Brown (broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com) wrote:
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:42:12PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Tue, 16.02.10 22:39, Mark Brown (
broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com) wrote:
Typically the DACs and ADCs will have a full scale signal at line reference level - it should generally be a good approximation with nothing else to go on.
"line reference level"? What is that?
As I understand it (and bear in mind that I'm a software rather than electrical engineer) it's not 100% fixed, though since the actual result depends very much on what it's connected to an absolute answer isn't as important as it might be. 1V RMS is very standard in consumer stuff at least.
If you could frame exactly the information that you're looking for then I should be able to ask a few people who are electrical engineers and get a more coherent answer for you. I guess you're looking at trying to have PulseAudio set sensible levels by default?
Nah. I actually don't need this value for PulseAudio. In PulseAudio I chose to shift all scales so that maximum amplification becomes 0 dB, so that the UIs are similar to how most hifi racks do it, and which I think is a nice, easy and understandable logic. That way my volume scales range from -inf dB to 0 dB in all cases, regardless of the hardware/drivers in use. Of course, that means that ALSA's own 0dB is not directly visible on the scale. Because it might be sometimes useful to know where it is, we export that position as "base volume" and the UIs show it with a little marker at the side.
The reason I was asking how Jaroslav chose the 0dB position for his measurements was purely because I wanted to do my own measurements for that Aureon card. The dbmeasure tool I wrote for stuff like that puts 0dB at max amplification, however Jaroslav didn't, so I was wondering how he chose 0dB then.
Lennart
From the viewpoint of user, they only care how easy to find the point which
is no software gain or software auttentation since software gain lead to clipping