At Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:30:12 +0200, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 08:57 +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Tue, 17 Mar 2009 02:52:19 +0200, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 22:22 +0100, Andreas Mohr wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 09:28:39PM +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:06:38 +0100, Andreas Mohr wrote:
I just tried connecting a headset and switching to E-Mic. What I can say is:
- opposite levels does NOT happen there (E-Mic is "analog micro"-based, right?)
- leaving E-Mic unplugged will actually record from i-Mic (due to properly working EAPD mechanism, right?)
The record from mic-jack is via analog path. The phase-inversion appears only for digital-mic, AFAIK.
Thought so.
One question still: is this a hardware defect (i.e. could this possibly be swapped cables of the microphone connector in this model or so? Not plausible but...), or is this an existing property of the HDA's dig-mic base? You indicated it's the latter I think...
My guess is that it's a hardware implementation. Maybe for the noise suppression via mic array.
Not sure what this means.
The question is whether the left / right channels recorded from digital mic are really raw data, or they are for modified data (for differential, etc)... It's hard to guess without the actual data.
I don't quite follow you here. Is there anything I could do about this?
Thanks,
Andreas
What about exposing the i-mic as a mono only device to userspace? It is mono after all?
No, it's a mic-array. And HD-audio cannot handle a mono stream.
No problem. Lets just lie to usespace that it is mono, in kernel driver can pick one of channels?
No, the hardware provides only the stereo streams, so the driver, too.
The downmixing is the job of the user-space. For example, try the patch to alsa-lib I sent in my previous post.
Maybe this is an array, but this doesn't explain the 'quality' of it. It is so low (in windows too).
Properly using the mic-array would reduce the noise fairly well. XP has no mic-array support, IIRC.
Of course, it's possible that Aspire* have badly equipped mic arrays that don't help much noise suppression...
Takashi