At Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:04:22 +0200, Mads Kiilerich wrote:
Takashi Iwai wrote, On 07/27/2009 08:14 AM:
At Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:39:28 +0200, Mads Kiilerich wrote:
Takashi Iwai wrote, On 07/26/2009 10:50 AM:
At Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:54:24 +0200, Mads Kiilerich wrote:
On a friends FUJITSU SIEMENS AMILO Li3710 10601011427 sound didn't work with kernel-PAE-2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i686
How about with the latest alsa-driver snapshot? ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/snapshot/alsa-driver-snapshot.tar.gz
Thanks.
I looked at your sound-2.6.git tree and found no quirk for this card (AFAICS) and assumed that it hadn't been reported and fixed yet.
When no quirk is set, the automatic mode is used as default. And, it's possible that the automatic mode has been fixed in the upstream. That's why I asked to test with the latest one. We should avoid any device-specific quirk as much as possible, but rather fix the automatic parser.
Ok, if you think that would be possible. I assumed that it was broken beond repair.
I am a developer, but for alsa I am a user, no expert, and honestly I don't plan to become one. Can you give a pointer to a description of how can I test the snapshot? On Fedora 11?
(http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page has a "How do I install the ALSA driver from source" link, but it just points to the download page without any explanation.)
Did you take a look at INSTALL file in alsa-driver?
alsa-driver-snapshot.tar.gz README says "integrated to 2.6+ kernels", so I assumed that this somehow only applied to 2.4 - which obviously would be very strange.
A word "integration" doesn't mean to exclude the update possibility at all. Also, when the driver is built as a module, it can be replaced even dynamically.
I missed the big overview. It seems like it would have been helpful to me (and the next guy) if something like the following blurb could be found somewhere - in README or INSTALL or from the "How do I install the ALSA driver from source" link or on http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Driver_Compilation :
"ALSA project develops both Linux kernel drivers as well as support libraries and tools for user-space. The kernel drivers are also included in vanilla Linux kernels, and usually the stock drivers are fine and should be used. It is however also possible to build the alsa-driver kernel modules for an existing compiled kernel and replace its drivers, for example from alsa-driver-snapshot.tar.gz to get the latest ALSA development and fixes. Note that the modules will have to be rebuild when a new kernel is installed."
INSTALL is very demotivating for use with distribution kernels. It would be helpful if you could add something like:
"On Fedora 11 (with PAE kernels) it works fine, but you need the package kernel-PAE-devel of the same version as the running kernel-PAE."
http://www.linlap.com/wiki/configuring+the+audio+and+updating+alsa+for+fedor... might also be helpful.
I assume something similar applies to Suse.
Patches are welcome :)
Also, please give alsa-info.sh output. Run with --no-upload and attach the generated file.
I became aware of that command after having visited my friend. I have output of dmesg and lshal and lspci - is that sufficient?
No
Ok, thanks for the hints to help me understand.
I will try alsa-drivers-snapshot and alsa-info.sh next time I get access to that computer - that will probably take more than a month.
OK, let me know any results.
thanks,
Takashi