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[alsa-devel] Accessing alsa device in kernel space.
by Vasily Khoruzhick 07 Aug '07

07 Aug '07

Hi, how to access to alsa device from kernel space? I want to create driver for virtual soundcard, that will perform mixing and rate converting in kernelspace, and put result in real hardware. But I found no documentation how to open alsa device in kernel space :( Best regards, Vasily.

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[alsa-devel] Some functionality of ice1724 broken between 1.0.14.RC1 and 1.0.14.RC3
by stan 06 Aug '07

06 Aug '07

Hi, This is going to be fairly long because of the explanations needed, but there are three problems I've found on my Revolution 5.1 between Alsa 1.0.14.RC1 and 1.0.14.RC3. 1. Support for high sample rates 96000 and 192000 was lost. 2. Sound distortion at high sound frequencies was introduced. 3. The maximum buffer size seems too small for high sample rates (not related to release candidate). Overview On Fedora 6 the alsa version is 1.0.14.RC1. Using that version, my application can use the high frequencies and there is no distortion introduced at high frequencies. On Fedora 7 the alsa version is 1.0.14.RC3. I can't use the high frequencies on the Revolution 5.1 and there is distortion introduced into the sound at high frequencies. In investigating this I noticed that the maximum buffer sizes seem small. 1. Here is the output from my app on Fedora 6 at 192000. (1.0.14.RC1) This works great! Minimum channels (1) Maximum channels (10000) Minimum rate (4000) Direction = 0 Maximum rate (4294967295) Direction = -1 Minimum period_time (10) Direction = 1 Maximum period_time (2048000) Direction = 0 Minimum period_size (0) Direction = 1 Maximum period_size (4294967295) Direction = -1 Minimum periods (0) Direction = 1 Maximum periods (4294967295) Direction = 0 Minimum buffer_time (1) Direction = 0 Maximum buffer_time (4294967295) Direction = 0 Minimum buffer_size (1) Maximum buffer_size (4294967294) Minimum tick_time (1000) Direction = 0 Maximum tick_time (1000) Direction = 0 Actual rate (192000) Direction = 0 Actual channels (2) Actual period_size (8) Direction = 0 Actual buffer_size (8192) <--- notice that this is reasonable Here is the output from my app on Fedora 7 at 192000. (1.0.14.RC3) This aborts while setting the hardware parameters with invalid argument. Minimum channels (1) Maximum channels (10000) Minimum rate (4000) Direction = 0 Maximum rate (4294967295) Direction = -1 Rate (48000) Direction = -1 Result = 0 <-- from test rate Rate (96000) Direction = -1 Result = 0 Rate (192000) Direction = -1 Result = 0 <-- maximum for card hw Rate (384000) Direction = -1 Result = 0 <-- accepts invalid 384000 Minimum period_time (21333) Direction = 1 <-- seems strange the same Maximum period_time (21334) Direction = -1 Minimum period_size (85) Direction = 1 Maximum period_size (91628833) Direction = -1 Minimum periods (0) Direction = 1 Maximum periods (17247242) Direction = -1 Minimum buffer_time (1) Direction = 0 Maximum buffer_time (4294967295) Direction = 0 Minimum buffer_size (170) Maximum buffer_size (1466015503) Minimum tick_time (0) Direction = 0 Maximum tick_time (4294967295) Direction = 0 Actual rate (192000) Direction = 0 Actual channels (2) Actual buffer_time (341333) Direction = 1 Actual buffer_size (65536) Actual buffer_size (65536) Actual period_time (21333) Direction = 1 Actual period_size (807872295) Direction = 1 <--- Note invalid period size Actual periods (21333) Direction = 1 cannot set parameters (Invalid argument) Could not open the sound device The two are on the same hardware, just different OS versions. While investigating I switched from using size to time as the allocation mechanism without any effect (using the sample from pcm.c on alsa site). I did a diff on the ice1724.c driver (attached below) and noticed that there was a lot of cleanup done by making the structs and arrays of structs const. Could that possibly cause this problem by not allowing calculated values to be set? Don't know. 44100 and 48000 work. I installed the alsa-debuginfo package to try to get a handle on this in gdb. But with the extreme indirection in alsa in order to deal with all the options and the compiler optimization, gdb left my head spinning so I thought I would ask here before going any further. Can you think of an explanation for this behavior? Can you fix it? 2. I ran a frequency loudness test that is part of the app. It drops the frequency at 5 seconds intervals from 20 KHz to 5 Hz alternating. On Fedora 6 with 1.0.14.RC1 it works as expected. When above my hearing range I hear silence. When it gets to frequencies I can hear the sound is pure. On Fedora 7, this same app produces noise at frequencies I can't hear. This behavior is the same as the behavior I noticed with my emu10k1, ca0106 and CK8S sound cards on 1.0.14.RC1 as well as 1.0.14.RC3. I previously had ascribed this to bad/low quality sound chips; now I'm not so sure. In terms of sound quality the Rev 5.1 ranks well. See the link http://compreviews.about.com/od/multimedia/tp/SoundCards.htm Exact same hardware produces different sound. Can't explain it. Can you? Can you fix it? 3. While looking at the ice1724.c code I noticed that the maximum buffer size is 2**18. This seems small for an application today. I'm producing sound at 192000 frames per second (admittedly overkill though I like very smooth sound) using stereo doubles (16 bytes per frame). The maximum buffer size is only a fraction of my per second byte rate. Could you increase this? Discussion. The app is a binaural / chronaural beat generator and is on sourceforge at http://sourceforge.net/projects/discord/ so you can download and run the tests yourself (about a meg). You will need libsndfile and libsamplerate installed to compile it. The version there won't have the conversion to time based allocation as I won't release that until this issue is resolved. To change the rate you change the -r option in the script file high_noon.discord (-r 192000 or --rate=192000). The run command to use is "./discord high_noon.discord". For issue 2 you have to run "./discord frequency_loudness_test.discord". Again change the rate using the -r option (-r 192000 or -r 96000 fail). The open_alsa function starts at around line 5610 in discord.c if you want to play around with the initialization. I basically cloned it from the libsndfile samples. If you aren't familiar with binaural or chronaural beats you can search for "binaural beat" or "brain wave entrainment" and find more than you probably want to know. :-) Thanks for any help.

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Re: [alsa-devel] PROBLEM: snd-au8830: dead after software suspend
by Gert Robben 06 Aug '07

06 Aug '07

>>> Have you reported this to the ALSA people? >> No, I thought this might as well be something for PCI or PM people, and >> I expected some ALSA people are also reading this list. >> If not, where else should I report this exactly? > alsa-devel [...] the author of the driver Done (original message below). Thanks again :) Gert Robben wrote: > After a suspend-resume cycle (using Suspend2), my sound card doesn't > work anymore. It works again after reloading the module. > > dmesg, initial boot: >> Linux version 2.6.22-ck1 > ----8<---- >> PCI driver au8830 lacks driver specific resume support. > > dmesg, after resume, trying to use the card: >> vortex: ac97 codec stuck busy > > Thanks for any help! > > Gert Robben

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[alsa-devel] a newbie overwhelmed with this API
by Adam Seychell 06 Aug '07

06 Aug '07

I'm writing simple audio application and I have successfully used the DirectSound API under Windows. Now I'm looking at porting to Linux using ALSA. I have tried reading the online ALSA API documentation, but it seems too early in development and insufficient compared what one can learn reading Microsoft's DirectX SDK documentation. Excuse my ignorance for a minute, but the API seems quite large compared to DirectSound and so I'm wondering if there is good reason why so many functions exists ? Was there an early design decision not to write ALSA in C++ ? I would like to help out with documentation but of course I thats impossible for someone who is a complete novice to the ALSA project. I know that writing good documentation takes a lot of hard work, especially for software developers who spend enough time on coding. Its an unfortunate paradox among all open source projects. Software developers who posses the knowledge can't readily communicate it to potential volunteer documentation writers in an open source environment. Adam

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[alsa-devel] [PATCH] au88x0: mem leak fix in snd_vortex_create()
by Jesper Juhl 06 Aug '07

06 Aug '07

Hi, In sound/pci/au88x0/au88x0.c::snd_vortex_create() : The Coverity checker found that if we allocate storage for 'chip' but then leave via the regions_out: label, then we end up leaking the storage allocated for 'chip'. I believe simply freeing 'chip' before the "return err;" line is all we need to fix this, but please double-check me :) Signed-off-by: Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl(a)gmail.com> --- diff --git a/sound/pci/au88x0/au88x0.c b/sound/pci/au88x0/au88x0.c index 5ec1b6f..f70286a 100644 --- a/sound/pci/au88x0/au88x0.c +++ b/sound/pci/au88x0/au88x0.c @@ -232,6 +232,7 @@ snd_vortex_create(struct snd_card *card, struct pci_dev *pci, vortex_t ** rchip) pci_disable_device(chip->pci_dev); //FIXME: this not the right place to unregister the gameport vortex_gameport_unregister(chip); + kfree(chip); return err; }

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[alsa-devel] MPC5200 I2S driver for ASoC
by lokowich 05 Aug '07

05 Aug '07

I'm integrating a ALSA driver for an MPC5200 into the ASoC layer, similar to my successful effort for a PXA255 board. I'm modeling the DMA and ALSA interfaces per ac97mgt driver found in the Lite5200B BSP, rather than the BestComm API example in the 2.4 kernel. The speaker-test with 400Hz sine wave is working, but has a slight audible jitter. A wav file output using aplay produces white noise. Debugging shows I get two requests for buffer pointer per service of my transmit ISR (after the single call to snd_pcm_period_elapsed). I expect only one pointer request per interrupt. Could this be the noise problem? This email was Anti Virus checked by Astaro Security Gateway. http://www.astaro.com

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[alsa-devel] [PATCH][RESEND] au88x0: mem leak fix in snd_vortex_create()
by Jesper Juhl 04 Aug '07

04 Aug '07

(resend of patch previously submitted on 04-Aug-2007 02:09) Hi, In sound/pci/au88x0/au88x0.c::snd_vortex_create() : The Coverity checker found that if we allocate storage for 'chip' but then leave via the regions_out: label, then we end up leaking the storage allocated for 'chip'. I believe simply freeing 'chip' before the "return err;" line is all we need to fix this, but please double-check me :) Signed-off-by: Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl(a)gmail.com> Acked-by: Rene Herman <rene.herman(a)gmail.com> --- diff --git a/sound/pci/au88x0/au88x0.c b/sound/pci/au88x0/au88x0.c index 5ec1b6f..f70286a 100644 --- a/sound/pci/au88x0/au88x0.c +++ b/sound/pci/au88x0/au88x0.c @@ -232,6 +232,7 @@ snd_vortex_create(struct snd_card *card, struct pci_dev *pci, vortex_t ** rchip) pci_disable_device(chip->pci_dev); //FIXME: this not the right place to unregister the gameport vortex_gameport_unregister(chip); + kfree(chip); return err; }

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[alsa-devel] SALSA and aplay
by Alan Horstmann 03 Aug '07

03 Aug '07

Quick questions: 1. Does SALSA provide everything needed by aplay? 2. Is there a version or equivalent of aplay that is a function that can be called from other code rather than the command line? Otherwise I shall hack it so for the purpose of some testing only, but ask to avoid re-inventing (no doubt poorly) something that exists. BTW SALSA compiled great (thanks Takashi), but with the following warning (which I ignore apart from mentioning here):- In file included from hcontrol.h:36, from mixer.h:25, from mixer.c:30: hctl_macros.h: In function `snd_hctl_elem_tlv_read': hctl_macros.h:136: warning: `snd_ctl_elem_tlv_read' is deprecated (declared at ctl_macros.h:1134) hctl_macros.h: In function `snd_hctl_elem_tlv_write': hctl_macros.h:142: warning: `snd_ctl_elem_tlv_write' is deprecated (declared at ctl_macros.h:1141) hctl_macros.h: In function `snd_hctl_elem_tlv_command': hctl_macros.h:148: warning: `snd_ctl_elem_tlv_command' is deprecated (declared at ctl_macros.h:1148) Alan

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Re: [alsa-devel] trouble compiling alsa-drivers
by Wallace, Brooke 03 Aug '07

03 Aug '07

Package alsa-driver-1.0.14.tar.b2z also fails to compile with the same error. Is there a particualr version of the Kernel that is recommended to use? I don't think the issue is with including the macro itself, it is defined in adriver.h and including that file directly generates the same error. Seems that MARCO depends on another MACRO "RW_LOCK_UNLOCKED" and somewhere down the line there is a syntax error.... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.9-34.EL-smp-i686' CC [M] /local/mnt/views/brookew/alsa/workspace/alsa-driver-1.0.14/acore/memallo c.o CC [M] /local/mnt/views/brookew/alsa/workspace/alsa-driver-1.0.14/acore/sgbuf.o CC [M] /local/mnt/views/brookew/alsa/workspace/alsa-driver-1.0.14/acore/memory_ wrapper.o CC [M] /local/mnt/views/brookew/alsa/workspace/alsa-driver-1.0.14/acore/pcm.o CC [M] /local/mnt/views/brookew/alsa/workspace/alsa-driver-1.0.14/acore/pcm_nat ive.o /local/mnt/views/brookew/alsa/workspace/alsa-driver-1.0.14/acore/pcm_nat ive.c:75: error: syntax error before "snd_pcm_link_rwlock" ... [Many more similar errors] ... make[4]: *** [/local/mnt/views/brookew/alsa/workspace/alsa-driver-1.0.14/acore/pcm_na tive.o] Error 1 make[3]: *** [/local/mnt/views/brookew/alsa/workspace/alsa-driver-1.0.14/acore] Error 2 make[2]: *** [_module_/local/mnt/views/brookew/alsa/workspace/alsa-driver-1.0.14] Error 2 make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.9-34.EL-smp-i686' make: *** [compile] Error 2 I will do some more digging around, but I don't want to go off the deep-end hacking software I don't understand, at least not yet. -Brooke ________________________________ From: Tobin Davis [mailto:tdavis@dsl-only.net] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 6:21 PM To: Wallace, Brooke Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] trouble compiling alsa-drivers Alsa 1.0.14rc4 is NOT the latest. 1.0.14 went final a few weeks after, and there was a patch to fix build issues on Redhat's broken kernels that went into it. Tobin On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 16:53 -0700, Wallace, Brooke wrote: The alsa-drivers INSTALL file tells me: On 2.6 kernels, the build directory has to be given via --with-build=<kernel_build_dir> option additionaly, too. What exactly is mean by kernel_build_dir? I should not have to recompile my kernel because I already have the sourcecore module. Configure seems to work fine and locates my kernel source code: ./configure --with-cards=hda-intel --with-sequencer=yes But when I compile, it fails in acore/pcm_native.c line #75, acore/pcm_native.c line #75 uses the macro DEFINE_RWLOCK which apparently has not been defined yet. Searching thu the alsa-drivers source, I find that include/adriver.h defines this macro. What am I doing wrong? Why doesn't adriver.h get included when I compile acore/pcm_native.c? I'm using the latest release - alsa-driver-1.0.14rc4 My Kernel sources are: 2.6.9-34.EL-smp-i686 Alsa is already working fine on this system using the HDA Intel driver, its a RHEL- 3.4.5-2 system. I just want to re-compile the latest ALSA software and start writing a dummy user space driver that prints to a file or something. I should be able to cmopile all of the latest ALSA software... Any help is appreciated. -Brooke _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel(a)alsa-project.org http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel -- Tobin Davis Laetrile is the pits.

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Re: [alsa-devel] Will the real alsa wiki please stand up?
by Eliot Blennerhassett 03 Aug '07

03 Aug '07

I'm confused again. Which is the real official wiki? This one "AlsaWiki" http://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page (MediaWiki, last change 25 July) OR This one "Official Alsa Wiki for Developers" https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/wiki/wikka.php?wakka=AlsaWiki (Powered by Wikka Wakka Wiki) approx 28 content pages, last change 24 July) It was made clear a while ago that this is the UNofficial wiki: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Main_Page (MediaWiki) Gosh!, how much fragmentation do we need???? If 3 wikis really are necessary, can we at least have links to the others on the main page of each wiki, and explanation of which is most approriate for different content? thanks Eliot

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