[alsa-devel] snd-usb-audio Buffer Sizes and Round Trip Latency

[Jonathan Liu]

Hi,

I want to start a discussion regarding round trip latency for class
compliant USB audio interfaces on Linux. In particular, I am noticing
with my USB 2.0 RME Babyface Pro audio interface that the round trip
latency is considerably higher on Linux than on macOS High Sierra and
Windows 10.

I tested the round trip latency using a loopback audio cable and the
ReaInsert plugin included with Reaper DAW (www.reaper.fm) that can be
downloaded for Windows/macOS/Linux to calculate the additional delay.

Here are the results for 48000 Hz, 24-bit on my RME Babyface Pro:
===
block_size/periods block_size*periods + additional_delay ~ round_trip_latency
round_trip_latency = (block_size*periods + additional_delay) / 48000 * 1000

Linux 4.17.14, Class Compliant Mode (snd-usb-audio, ALSA backend):
16/2 32 + 80 ~ 2.333 ms
16/3 48 + 109 ~ 3.271 ms
32/2 64 + 129 ~ 4.021 ms
32/3 96 + 166 ~ 5.458 ms
64/2 128 + 205 ~ 6.938 ms
64/3 192 + 242 ~ 9.042 ms
128/2 256 + 352 ~ 12.667 ms
128/3 384 + 496 ~ 18.334 ms
256/2 512 + 650 ~ 24.208 ms
256/3 768 + 650 ~ 29.542 ms
512/2 1024 + 634 ~ 34.542 ms
512/3 1536 + 634 ~ 45.208 ms
1024/2 2048 + 650 ~ 56.208 ms
1024/3 3072 + 650 ~ 77.542 ms
2048/2 4096 + 633 ~ 98.521 ms
2048/3 6144 + 633 ~ 141.188 ms

macOS High Sierra, Class Compliant Mode (Apple Driver):
16/2 32 + 205 ~ 4.938 ms
32/2 64 + 205 ~ 5.604 ms
64/2 128 + 205 ~ 6.938 ms
128/2 256 + 205 ~ 9.604 ms
256/2 512 + 205 ~ 14.938 ms
512/2 1024 + 205 ~ 25.604 ms
1024/2 2048 + 205 ~ 46.938 ms
2048/2 4096 + 205 ~ 89.604 ms

macOS High Sierra, PC Mode (RME Driver v3.08):
16/2 32 + 59 ~ 1.896 ms
32/2 64 + 59 ~ 2.563 ms
64/2 128 + 59 ~ 3.896 ms
128/2 256 + 59 ~ 6.563 ms
256/2 512 + 59 ~ 11.596 ms
512/2 1024 + 59 ~ 22.563 ms
1024/2 2048 + 59 ~ 43.896 ms
2048/2 4096 + 59 ~ 86.563 ms

Windows 10, PC Mode (RME Driver 1.099):
48/2 96 + 63 ~ 3.313 ms
64/2 128 + 63 ~ 3.979 ms
96/2 192 + 63 ~ 5.313 ms
128/2 256 + 63 ~ 6.646 ms
256/2 512 + 63 ~ 11.979 ms
512/2 1024 + 63 ~ 22.646 ms
1024/2 2048 + 63 ~ 43.979 ms
2048/2 4096 + 63 ~ 86.646 ms
===

Some things in particular I noticed on Linux:
- additional_delay varies a bit if I close and open the audio device again
- additional_delay seems to increase as the block_size increases. I
can make the additional_delay stay about the same rather than
increasing by setting MAX_PACKS and MAX_PACKS_HS to 1 in
sound/usb/card.h. In Linux versions before 3.13 there was a nrpacks
parameter for snd-usb-audio to control this but it was removed with
commit https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?h=v3.13&id=976b6c064a957445eb0573b270f2d0282630e9b9
- additional_delay is not constant as block_size is increased like on
macOS and Windows

I made a patch to snd-usb-audio to expose the snd-usb-audio constants
as runtime adjustable module parameters
(/sys/module/snd_usb_audio/parameters/) for testing (takes effect when
the device is disconnected+reconnected and logs the parameter values
to dmesg):
https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/plain/parameters.patch?h=snd-usb-audio-lowlatency-dkms

The patch is used in my Arch Linux AUR package for convenience (using
DKMS to avoid having to recompile entire kernel):
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/snd-usb-audio-lowlatency-dkms/

Can snd-usb-audio be improved so the additional_delay is always the
same when closing/opening/reconfiguring the audio device and does not
increase as the block_size increases?

I noticed using USB audio on Linux at lower latencies (block_size <=
128) is more prone to audio dropouts under load compared to macOS and
Windows, even with CPU power management disabled (writing 0 to
/dev/cpu_dma_latency). What can be done about this?

Thanks.

Regards,
Jonathan