[alsa-devel] Set eapd to follow stream on or off

Kailang kailang at realtek.com
Thu May 22 08:26:04 CEST 2014



> At Wed, 21 May 2014 17:24:16 +0800,
> Kailang wrote:
>>
>> > At Wed, 21 May 2014 14:28:12 +0800,
>> > Kailang wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Takashi,
>> >>
>> >> Attach is the update patch.
>> >
>> > Keep the function in lower letters.
>> >
>> > Also, update the patch description as well (and better to put more
>> > words).
>>
>> Update as attach.
>> Thanks.
>
> Well, do you really want to turn off EAPD at closing the stream?

Yes.

> As I repeatedly explained, this results in more frequent EAPD on/off,
> i.e. more pop noises.
>

I have sent the patch for HP.
I will wait for feedback from customer.
If it is solve the issue, I will advise you.

Our AE says, windows use this method. HP is agree this usage.

>
> Takashi
>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > thanks,
>> >
>> > Takashi
>> >
>> >> Many thanks.
>> >>
>> >> BR,
>> >> Kailang
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > At Wed, 21 May 2014 13:58:14 +0800,
>> >> > Kailang wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > At Tue, 20 May 2014 18:05:42 +0800,
>> >> >> > Kailang wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > At Tue, 20 May 2014 17:20:44 +0800,
>> >> >> >> > Kailang wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > At Tue, 20 May 2014 16:52:43 +0800,
>> >> >> >> >> > Kailang wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > At Tue, 20 May 2014 15:15:49 +0800,
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Kailang wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Takashi,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> HP machine had pop noise via speaker.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> If EAPD on or off, speaker will have pop noise.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> So, they want to set eapd to follow with stream on or 
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> off.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > I can apply this as is, but still I wonder whether this
>> >> >> >> >> >> > results
>> >> >> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> >> >> > other problems.  Doing EAPD on/off there means that it
>> >> >> >> >> >> > happens
>> >> >> >> >> >> > far
>> >> >> >> >> >> > more often.  For example, what happens if you do like
>> >> >> >> >> >> > below?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >     while true; do
>> >> >> >> >> >> >       echo -n > /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
>> >> >> >> >> >> >     done
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > And, what if the device is resumed from power-saving by 
>> >> >> >> >> >> > an
>> >> >> >> >> >> > audio
>> >> >> >> >> >> > playback?  Immediately after the power up, it'll start 
>> >> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> >> > streaming,
>> >> >> >> >> >> > so it'll turn on EAPD.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > That said, isn't it just a need for some delay before 
>> >> >> >> >> >> > EAPD
>> >> >> >> >> >> > on/off?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> No, eapd on or off will cause pop noise.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Does it do always?
>> >> >> >> >> No, pop noise just one pop sound. It can not remove by 
>> >> >> >> >> software.
>> >> >> >> >> But this machine need to do this always.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > So, doing EAPD on/off often is rather worse.  It's what your
>> >> >> >> > patch
>> >> >> >> > does.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Once again: did you try the script above?  If the pop noise
>> >> >> >> > always
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I had try it on my develop machine. I have no HP issue machine 
>> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> my
>> >> >> >> site.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > happens, the operation like above is the worst scenario.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Then, let's think again how to *reduce* it.  We need one EAPD 
>> >> >> >> > on
>> >> >> >> > at
>> >> >> >> > least after each power up.  But it's needed only when you
>> >> >> >> > actually
>> >> >> >> > plays a stream.  That is, we need only enable EAPD at playback
>> >> >> >> > stream
>> >> >> >> > open, but leave EAPD as is at close.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> [we need only enable EAPD at playback stream open, but leave 
>> >> >> >> EAPD
>> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> close.]
>> >> >> >> Yes.
>> >> >> >> So, I need to create eapd low in alc269_shutup. Right?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Better to create own shutup callback (you can call 
>> >> >> > alc269_shutup()
>> >> >> > from there, too) and set it to spec->shutup in the fixup.  The
>> >> >> > pincfg
>> >> >> > cleanup isn't often needed or may have bad effect.  You should 
>> >> >> > test
>> >> >> > with real machines what are needed and what are not.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> static void alc290_fixup_pop_noise(struct hda_codec *codec,
>> >> >>            const struct hda_fixup *fix, int action)
>> >> >> {
>> >> >>  struct alc_spec *spec = codec->spec;
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  if (action == HDA_FIXUP_ACT_PRE_PROBE) {
>> >> >>   spec->gen.pcm_playback_hook = ALC290_playback_pcm_hook;
>> >> >>  }
>> >> >> if (action ==   HDA_FIXUP_ACT_INIT) {
>> >> >>   set_eapd(codec, 0x14, false);
>> >> >>  }
>> >> >> }
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Could I modify as upper code?
>> >> >> To set eapd low in HDA_FIXUP_ACT_INIT state.
>> >> >> If system resume, it will initial eapd to low.
>> >> >> To write eapd to same value, it will have no pop noise.
>> >> >> It will keep always low for eapd, only stream open and close have
>> >> >> change
>> >> >> state for eapd.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, it looks OK.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Takashi
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Takashi
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Takashi
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> Our customer just want to do eapd on when stream is open.
>> >> >> >> >> >> The pop noise will not clear. Because music gain was biger
>> >> >> >> >> >> than
>> >> >> >> >> >> pop
>> >> >> >> >> >> noise.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Opening a stream doesn't mean that it follows the loud 
>> >> >> >> >> > sound
>> >> >> >> >> > immediately.  The script above wouldn't produce any sound 
>> >> >> >> >> > but
>> >> >> >> >> > just
>> >> >> >> >> > does open/close the stream.  Did you try that?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Takashi
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > ------Please consider the environment before printing this
>> >> >> >> >> > e-mail.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> [2 0001-set-eapd-follow-stream-on-off.patch <application/octet-stream
>> >> (quoted-printable)>]
>> >>
>> >
>> > ------Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
>> [2 0002-set-eapd-follow-stream-on-off.patch <application/octet-stream 
>> (quoted-printable)>]
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