[alsa-devel] [PATCH] ALSA: hda - delay resume haswell hdmi codec in system resume

David Henningsson david.henningsson at canonical.com
Mon Apr 8 15:30:25 CEST 2013

On 04/08/2013 02:23 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> At Mon, 08 Apr 2013 14:20:28 +0200,
> David Henningsson wrote:
>> On 04/08/2013 01:59 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>> At Mon, 08 Apr 2013 13:35:25 +0200,
>>> David Henningsson wrote:
>>>> On 04/08/2013 01:06 PM, Lin, Mengdong wrote:
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Takashi Iwai [mailto:tiwai at suse.de]
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 6:24 PM
>>>>>> To: David Henningsson
>>>>>> Cc: Lin, Mengdong; alsa-devel at alsa-project.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH] ALSA: hda - delay resume haswell hdmi codec
>>>>>> in system resume
>>>>>> At Mon, 08 Apr 2013 11:49:09 +0200,
>>>>>> David Henningsson wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm still not understanding this patch.
>>>>>>> We of course cannot have a situation where HDMI jack detection is not
>>>>>>> correctly working after S3, which looks like would be the case here?
>>>>>> No.  The patch itself has nothing to do with the HDMI jack detection at all.
>>>>>> This intrinsic unsol event is (according to Intel) guaranteed to be issued once at
>>>>>> the audio codec initialization, at least for Haswell.
>>>> Well, if no process is using the HDMI codec actively, nothing will
>>>> initialize the resume, and the HDMI codec will not initialized at all, i
>>>> e, no unsol events enabled in the first place?
>>> No, the intrinsic unsol event that is issued for this seems irrelevant
>>> from the jack state (i.e. active usage).
>>>> (The counter argument would be; if nobody uses HDMI codec, does it
>>>> matter that it is not initialized, but I'm unsure if e g "amixer
>>>> contents" or listeners on legacy /dev/input actually powers up the chip.)
>>> The problem is that the codec resume is always performed no matter
>>> whether the device is used or not.  This was different in the past but
>>> it's been changed in that way because there are cases where you need
>>> to initialize the hardware properly once (e.g. mute-LED toggling).
>>>>>>> Second, I just saw on a machine we're working on, the symptoms: one of
>>>>>>> the pins in D3 and the right channel muted. And this was on a clean
>>>>>>> boot, not after S3 suspend/resume cycle.
>>>>>> Maybe another problem.  Maybe not.  Does the problem persist if you reload
>>>>>> the driver (without invocation of alsactl via udev)?
>>>>> Hi Takashi and David,
>>>>> This is the same dependency issue as after system suspend/resume cycles, with same phenomenon.
>>>>> I duplicated this error if I boot without an HDMI/DP cable connected and connect the cable later.
>>>>> Maybe we need to delay codec operations on initialization like in resume case.
>>>> So it's a problem both on hotplug and S3...
>>> In the case of hotplug, you don't hit the inconsistent power sate
>>> we're trying to solve.  The graphics has been already powered up.
>>>>>>> To look at the problem again: If the problem is that something must be
>>>>>>> done on the graphics driver side first and then on the audio side,
>>>>>>> wouldn't the solution be for the video driver and audio driver to
>>>>>>> communicate somehow?
>>>>>> Yes, the pm domain support is necessary sooner or later, as I already discussed
>>>>>> shortly with Dave Airlie.  However...
>>>>> Liam will propose Gfx driver team to implement a pm domain.
>>>>>>> And resume (and possibly init?) would not complete until first the
>>>>>>> graphics driver has done its resume, and after that, the audio driver.
>>>>>>> I e, userspace will remain frozen until both drivers have completed a
>>>>>>> correct resume.
>>>>>> ... the resume problem can't be fixed only by the usual pm domain serialization.
>>>>>> The graphics initialization for the audio bit is done asynchronously, thus we
>>>>>> can't guarantee the audio codec is really ready after the graphics driver returns
>>>>>> from the resume callback.
>>>>>> It shows as if it's ready (you can turn it to D0) but actually it doesn't change on
>>>>>> the hardware.  Thus, the serialization with an unsol event wait seems
>>>>>> mandatory for the time being.
>>>>> It seems so. We have not found better solution now :-(
>>>>> I've revised the patch for system suspend/resume case. Please review.
>>>> If this problem can be detected by looking at the pin and finding that
>>>> it is in D3,
>>> No, you can't see that it's D3.  The controller chip _shows_ it's in
>>> D0 while it's actually in D3.  That's the problem.
>>> So, this is actually a hardware design bug.  But we need to live with
>>> that.
>> Then I'm not sure it's the same problem; because for me I can see the D3
>> in the codec proc output.
> I suppose you didn't set the powersave for it, right?

AFAIK, powersave remains at upstream default.

> BTW, the main problem was about the FG node, which you can't judge
> from the proc output, unfortunately.

Here's what it looks like for me. Right channel muted and pin in D3.

Node 0x05 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40778d: 8-Channels Digital Amp-Out CP
   Control: name="HDMI/DP,pcm=3 Jack", index=0, device=0
   Control: name="IEC958 Playback Con Mask", index=0, device=0
   Control: name="IEC958 Playback Pro Mask", index=0, device=0
   Control: name="IEC958 Playback Default", index=0, device=0
   Control: name="IEC958 Playback Switch", index=0, device=0
   Control: name="ELD", index=0, device=3
   Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
   Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x80]
   Pincap 0x0b000094: OUT Detect HBR HDMI DP
   Pin Default 0x18560010: [Jack] Digital Out at Int HDMI
     Conn = Digital, Color = Unknown
     DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x0
   Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
   Unsolicited: tag=01, enabled=1
   Power states:  D0 D3 EPSS
   Power: setting=D3, actual=D3
   Connection: 3
      0x02* 0x03 0x04

David Henningsson, Canonical Ltd.

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