[alsa-devel] [PATCH v4 5/6] core: add support for compress_offload

Vinod Koul vinod.koul at linux.intel.com
Tue Dec 20 10:26:26 CET 2011


On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 10:47 +0530, Nallasellan, Singaravelan wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 23:23 +0530, Vinod Koul wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 21:32 +0530, Nallasellan, Singaravelan wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Again, please read the related discussion on the list.
> > > > 
> > > > Compressed devices will not have direction associated with them . They can be
> > > > opened in any mode depending on the mode the DSP supports.
> > > > So /dev/snd/comprC0D0 can be either playback or capture device.
> > > > So a device can be ONLY opened with O_WRONLY or O_RDONLY.
> > > > 
> > > Nice, Does it look like a hack hack hack...
> > Care to elaborate your comment?
> > 
> There are few assumptions here:
> 1) User of this device should use only these flags
User will not know about these flags, Library should take care.
User just opens a playback or capture device
> 2) No one should change the file permission after the device is created.
File permissions? what are you talking about?

> 3) No one should write to the ring buffer of the capture stream in the
> case of mmap. If someone wants to process the data in the ring buffer
> itself for capture stream, it is not allowed. The user should copy the
> the content from ring buffer and then process it. May be a good idea.
Yes why would you allow write for capture stream?
That notion itself is not good idea as you are relying on ring buffer
not to overwrite data while you are processing. DSP is not aware of this
and will overwrite data.

> 4) Looks like minor numbers are used to differentiate the multiple
> streams. 
> Anyhow, the device should be opened for capture and playback
> separately. 
> What do we loose if we use separate devices for capture and playback for
> each stream supported?
> 
> 5) Anyway, I think the device entries should be created for each stream
> with a different minor number.
> 
> Why dont we use the similar device node creation method as PCM? 
> May be I missed some relevant discussion here. Can you guys provide more
> info?
If you had care to read Takashi's comments, you wouldn't have been
asking these. At the peril of repeating myself again and again...
Previous version had compress devices like pcm comprCxDyp/c, but based
on discussion we had we didn't really need such a thing. So now we have
comprCxDy, which can be a playback or a capture device based on what the
DSP is supporting for that device.

> 
> > 
> > > > > O_NONBLOCK is not tested here for non-blocking support.
> > > > Why should it be?
> > > > 1) Any blocking and non blocking should be handled in user space
> > > > 2) Nevertheless, that is not supported, HINT: read the documentation
> > > > 
> > > This is not as per the write system call definition as I understand.
> > > Look like we redefine the
> > > system call here. Support it in the standard way.
> > Your argument is entirely bogus.
> > What do you mean by that? Noone is changing a system call.
> > For this device O_NONBLOCK is not supported thats it!!! How does that
> > violate a system call. 
> > There are many other flags which some device support and some don't.
> > 
> > > > Yes currently write is allowed only once and we *normally* expect a START call. I am
> > > > not sure why someone would need to call "smaller"
> > > > writes multiple times. Remember this is compressed offload where we ideally want
> > > > larger chunks of data otherwise there is no point in using this.
> > > The code allows this to happen.  Is there any minimum size documented anywhere? 
> > That's whatever dsp supports
> > 
> > 
> > > > > What is the maximum number of fragments supported?
> > > > Whatever dsp supports
> > > IMHO, compress-core needs to query it from each driver and allocate memory 
> > > only if the supported fragments is greater than requested fragments. 
> > user library should query the format and other details supported at
> > open. So these checks are anyway made their.
> > Nevertheless, this can be taken care in core as well but there is always
> > a question of how much check to do.
> IMO, the kernel code should ensure the sanity of the values. It should
> not assume that you will always do the right thing.
Naah the library needs these anyway, so no harm in checking.
>   
> > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Can we check the fragments to that limit?
> > > > Yes, can be checked here as well but I prefer to do these checks in userspace library
> > > Think the driver needs to check and return error if it is not within the maximum
> > > supported by the driver.
> > Where is driver coming here?
> 
> As you mentioned, the driver will specify the max number of fragments
> supported. Now the compress-core has to query the value and validate the
> user values. Other option is to send the parameters to the driver and
> let it verify the sanity of the values and return the right error code
> the core. 
Again, userspace will check.

-- 
~Vinod



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