[alsa-devel] asihpi - how much further?

Eliot Blennerhassett linux at audioscience.com
Fri Feb 22 00:26:59 CET 2008

Hi Takashi,

My boss has started asking how long is it going to take to get our driver into 
mainline.  I.e. a list of things we need to do, that when all those items 
have been dealt with, then the driver is accepted.
Is it possible to make such a list?

thanks and regards

Eliot Blennerhassett

P.S. Heres a quote that I feel has some relevance:


Jim Zemlin: But in a sense, over time, you win because you set the bar high 
and you encourage people to get it into the main line.

Linus Torvalds: One of the problems is we have people who have so high 
criteria for what is acceptable or not that it scares away people who want to 
do new code and do new experiments.

We mustn’t set the bar that high. New code, new drivers, there will be 
problems and I’d rather take them and then improve them than expect driver 
authors, especially when they stand outside the main tree and feel kind of 
like outsiders even though maybe they really are part of the same whole 
development community, but they feel like outsiders because their driver 
hasn’t made it into the tree yet.

And then asking them to jump through hoops and make their driver perfect when 
they’re standing there alone and don’t have help; I think that’s unfair. And 
there are people in the kernel community that feel that way that things have 
to be just right before you can accept them and I’m much more of a 
laissez-faire kind of person. We don’t want to accept bad things, but on the 
other hand, hey, everything starts from less-than-perfect roots and it’s much 
better to accept things that work but may not be perfect and then improve on 
them when we can all improve on them and all the different vendors can fix 
the small nagging issues they have instead of keeping them at arm’s length 
until they’re perfect because maybe they’ll never be perfect without help.

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